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The Senate voted to pass the anti-American Defense Authorization Act of 2011, S.1867. The vote was 61-37; 61 Senators who swore to defend and uphold the Constitution just flipped the bird at the entire country.
44 Republican Senators voted to keep the detainee provisions in the bill….these are those same Republicans who are going to save the country from Obama and the Democrats.
17 Democrats voted to keep the same provisions….These are the same Democrats who are going to save country from the Republicans and the neo-cons.
I can’t speak for anyone else other than myself here but, I am so sick of this traitorous bunch of political whores and jackasses, I can barely stand it. I cannot think of one rational, plausible reason as to why this bill included the so-called “right” to arbitrarily and summarily determine any one, anywhere in the world to be a threat/criminal, and to detain them indefintiely without any bona fide reason and based on nothing more than what might amount to a “belief” and to hold them indefinitely without charging them with any crime or producing any evidence that one had been committed and to do this to anyone the government decides to, even US citizens. Who are the real terrorists here? And why would codifying this into some horrendous law, make it any less repugnant or any more justifiable?
Its bad enough that we are unable to trust anything this bunch does, much less even one word of anything they say, but the fact is THEY know that WE know they are lying and betraying us at every opportunity, yet they continue to do so while simultaneously trying to convince us that one party or the other is the only party that will save us from fascism/socialism/communism…..whatever “ism” suits their current needs. The fact is, we need to save our selves from our own government.
I am so sick of being threatened with another 9/11 style attack if we don’t submit and comply with the assaults on our rights, and seeing that threat used to destroy our Constitution and to strike down our protections and ultimately, to destroy our country. We have spent billions upon billions of dollars on state of the art spying systems, and assorted military systems and weapons all of which appear to be directed inward at us. S.1867 makes it very apparent that we are the enemy as far as the central government is concerned.
I do not give a rats hind end if the bill laid out who got what power, authority or how much money for the coming year to keep the endless illegal wars going and to start new ones as others wind down. The fact that the bill contained these things does not negate the fact that it intentionally omitted Constitutional protections for US citizens; protections specifically put in place to keep our government from doing exactly this kind of thing to us.
Furthermore, it does not negate the fact that these detainee provisions are the same kinds of provisions that all dictatorial countries use to oppress and terrorize their own populations and any one else who doesn’t submit and comply.
Senator Levin, who was instrumental in crafting this assault on the people of the United States, was quoted in the New York Times as saying:
“We are at war with Al Qaeda, and people who are determined to be part of Al Qaeda should be treated as people who are at war with us,” Mr. Levin said in the debate leading up to the vote.
His remarks would have been far more honest if he had spoken the truth and his quote would have more accurately reflected who they view as the enemy of the state, if he had said something to this effect:
“We are at war with the Constitutional Republic, and people who are determined to be part of the Constitutional Republic should be treated as people who are at war with us”.
“Us” would be the government and those who slither in and out of the doors of government and who have access to those officials; those that view the general population as expendable, a nuisance and not worthy of living in freedom.
Yet these same purveyors of lies, corruption and political posturing will expect us, the same people they are determined to oppress, to pay the bills on all their anti-American, anti-humanity declarations.
We have become what we claimed to despise
- Ever since the false flag attacks of 9/11, our own government has done to the country what no terrorist or terrorist organization could have accomplished.
- All of the attacks on our Constitutional protections and rights have been perpetrated not by some terrorist in a far away place, but by our own government.
- It is our own government that has enabled the 17 or more spy agencies in the US to unlawfully put the country under surveillance,
- to assemble dossiers on each and every one of us,
- to track us,
- film us,
- listen in on our conversations,
- read our email and snail mail,
- to break into our homes performing illegal searches.
- It is our own government that has established Fusions centers for local spying,
- and turned various corporate federal agencies into immediate threats to the country.
- It is our own government that allows TSA to harass and molest us as we travel,
- that has turned our local law enforcement units into the menaces to their communities that many have become.
The idea that the US will pass some kind of law that could possibly prevent terrorists from acting out their plans is nothing less than ludicrous. Furthermore, we have had “laws” on the books for years prior to 9/11 that would have dealt with terrorists if we were able to catch them, but which did nothing to prevent the attacks. Get a clue here: Terrorists, by definition, do not give a damn what kind of laws are passed in this country or any other. That is part of what makes them terrorists.
Ten years after 9/11 and we are still sitting by idly as bill after bill, after bill comes out of this nest of pit vipers we call congress; bills that have destroyed who we are and what we stand for as a country. We have forfeited our rights, our protections, our privacy and security and ultimately our country to a government who spends more of its time trying to convince us that all their attacks on our Constitutional Republic are necessary, the only way they can keep us safe, than it does looking for actual terrorists.
We have become the thing we claimed we despised. All of the crimes we claim are being committed by other countries are crimes we are committing ourselves. We torture, kidnap, bomb, murder, intimidate, abuse and terrify all in the name of “national security”. We destabilize economies, deprive entire countries of food, medicines, even water for refusing to submit to what we want. We overthrow governments and assassinate their leaders and then install puppet governments to do our bidding.
I have to wonder if at some point if other countries will band together and declare the US a terrorist organization, guilty of crimes against humanity, war crimes, human rights violations and a threat to world peace. If this should ever happen, possibly Carl Levin and John McCain could stand up and wave a copy of S.1867 at them and make them run away.
RB
Dec 25, 2011 @ 16:34:49
Listen OldDog!, this was SETUP a long time ago, especially with the Long Island/NY metro area, with the Levittown Developments, which started the “Great American SETUP” from 1945 (with the building of the Levittown Developments, which seeded the Long Island/NY suburbia area). Think about it, Levittown, NY started by 2 Kapo Jews (William and Alfred Levitt), which brought in the G.I. Joe Screwups from WW2, and all the Aristocrats/Blue Bloods left Long Island/NY metro area at the same time. And looking at the Geography of Long Island/NY metro area, only 5 Bridges get you off, and boats, and if they close the Bridges and stop the Boat Traffic your stuck. Long Island/NY metro area easy to quarantine, isolate, separate an remove from the Mainland of the U.S.A.. Hey if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, smells like a duck, its a duck. Long Island/NY metro area was 1000% a SETUP from 1945, with the start of the Levittown/NY metro developments which
started the SETUP. And less not forget the other Kapo Jew, that of ‘Robert Moses’, and BTW between Alfred and William Levitts, aside from being Kapos (like Jews telling other Jews, I’m here to help you and now follow me to the ‘Gas Chambers’), they all 3 were incompetent, inept, hateful, and malicious in their thinking. Truth be told.
Long Island/NY metro area Ground Zero for the Hit, probably “Biological of Nature”, like the Spanish Flu, as to take out 99% of the population, and then they will close the Bridges and stop the Boat Traffic. This plan was devised, from 1945, when Long Island/NY metro became Suburbanized with the start with the Levittown Developments, which started “The Great American SETUP”.
“TPTB” (The Powers to Be) devised this plan 66+ years ago, and now coming to fruition and the crescendo of the grand SETUP. (from 1945 with the start of the Levittown/NY developments).
You’ll see!! And some survivors will either end up in FEMA camps, when all is said and done, for either death or Government Work Slave. But pretty much Long Island/NY metro area will be evacuated for at least 10+ years, when the “Event” happens, which should be happening soon. Its just a matter of time when “TPTB” pull the “Event”.
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OldDog
Dec 24, 2011 @ 19:08:37
It will start slow and disorganized, and many will just disappear, but like a giant wave we will wash over them and their bodies will litter the streets nation wide. Then, history will record this as the most destructive civil war in the history of nations. Be prepared for atrocities formally unheard of, like politicians being dragged from coast to coast as rage infects an entire population. OORAW
OldDog
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adhd symptom
Dec 19, 2011 @ 08:48:57
ghostwisdom
Dec 12, 2011 @ 04:10:33
And last:
Marti, I have enjoyed my time here, but it’s time for me to go back to work.
Thanks for the time and space. Give me a holler next time you post another juicy article…
John
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ghostwisdom
Dec 12, 2011 @ 04:07:22
Besides that, Marti said:
ppjg
I’ve enjoyed reading it. I don’t mind people disagreeing or debating anything…..we all need to hear all sides. I am sorry to say that I have had to delete many comments because of gross profanity, or the “its the jews!” stuff. Also, for some reason there are people who just cannot express themselves without calling someone else filthy names…..we don’t do that here.
Carry on guys! ITs a good conversation. M
Perhaps you need to take it up with Marti.
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ghostwisdom
Dec 12, 2011 @ 04:05:11
Sunday is Marti’s day off. lol
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RB
Dec 12, 2011 @ 03:39:44
Hey marcellas! Its not Marti where are you??? Its Car 54 where are you? Get your expressions right, if your going to use them in a (supposed*) open diatribe forum.
Get with the program, I have!
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RB
Dec 12, 2011 @ 03:25:44
Hey marcellas! Who invited you to the party? (masquerade party). Don’t worry when the mark of the beast comes, we’ll all be DNA fingerprinted, besides electromagnetic aura body fingerprinted. Just get with the Program, I have!. Can’t fight the Bankers and Globalists/Elitists with the illusional “World and USA” matrix.
marcellas do drugs (heavy) and break out of the illusional matrix already, I have!.
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marcellas
Dec 12, 2011 @ 02:26:48
Geez….who cares? Can;t you guys take this over to Jone’s site or something? they just love this kind of stuff. We come here to avoid getting mired down in this useless crap. this has not one thing to do with the article or the issues. who cares what your dna line is or what tribe you think you belong to or that someone else does. What possible difference could it make in the bigger picture. i can;t believe people even waste their time on this. Marti…where are you??????
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RB
Dec 12, 2011 @ 00:40:36
Hey! ghostwisdom!
By logic if this is a “Public Open Board”, why are your “Diatribes”, like specifically written to me, almost like customized to “me”, “The Jew”, by statistics in the USA, there are about 6 million Jews in the U.S.A. of a population of 320 Million, which would put it at less than 1.8% of U.S. Population., Which would mean to write to me specifically, which would mean about the chances of 9 out 500 people. Statistically insignificant to not specifically address me, or significantly to address me. Just an observation I made.
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charlessmoore
Dec 12, 2011 @ 00:24:22
You are Ephraim or Manasseh or a mix of the original lost 10 tribes of Israel if you came from Europe and are white complected. The mix what between Greeks/Romans and the Barbarians or Celtic peoples. Yes Jews were in the mix later on to a very small degree. The Jews have never lost their identity!
Not just a theory if you are into tracing DNA links.
Just a another thing to research and chew on a bit.
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ghostwisdom
Dec 11, 2011 @ 21:45:40
The 13 families:
Astor
Bundy
Collins
DuPont
Freeman
Kennedy
Li
Onassis
Reynolds – My dad’s bloodline. As a Jew, you should know that bloodlines are carried through the males.
Rockefeller
Rothschild
Russell
Van Duyn
Merovingian (European Royal Families)
And no, I doubt that anything as blatantly crude as a holocaust will occur publicly.
Try to remember their greatest boast:
“We can make anybody do anything we want and make it look like it’s THEIR IDEA”.
They might make YOU do it, but they themselves won’t do squat that they can be held responsible for!
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RB
Dec 11, 2011 @ 17:54:35
Hey! ghostwisdom!
I never threaten!, and I tried getting your family bloodline tree, and it didn’t work!
I am too related to a “Bloodline” what I don’t know? but its related to some “Bloodline” somewhere. I actually was thinking about doing a DNA trace blood or saliva tests to see where my “Bloodline” originates.
I believe I am related to perhaps the “Rothchilds”, or some Royalline..
What do you think of those DNA trace tests??
Do you think the Globalists/Elitists/Bankers are setting up for another “Krystalnacht 2” and “Holocaust 2” in the Long Island/NY metro area???
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ghostwisdom
Dec 09, 2011 @ 22:42:32
WOW!
And I thought paranoia was reserved for the TIN FOIL crowd. Oh, dopey me.
Hi, everyone. My name is John Nutter. You can read about my grandfather here, along with many others bearing my last name.
http://www.e-familytree.net/f10543.htm
As a matter of fact, and is public record, I am related to one of the 13 blood lines of the so-called Illuminati. (European Royalty)
And if that isn’t enough to throw the multi-paranoid into a self-destructive tizzy, I am also a part of Corporate America. You know, the “bad guys” who supposedly run this country.
I operate a business and have a public email. (several, in fact)
It is ghostwalker@brokenwall.com. Please feel free to use it. (If you like, I can forward you ads for viagra, grants, supposedly free crap or Lindsay Lohans deepest and darkest secrets)
Death Threats are also welcome – one of my brother-in-law ‘s is a Federal Cop. I just forward the weirdos to him so we have something to laugh about over Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner.
90% of incoming email goes directly to the “junk” folder so I can see if there’s anything there worth reading without actually opening it.
Hopefully, this will settle the facts for most of you:
A) I’m not captamerica1 or anyone else posting here (the picture/avatar for “John and ghostwisdom” are the same – that means WE are the same entity)
b) My last name is real – (at least my mother, my wife and my kids think so) I really don’t care if anyone else does or not.
3) Thanks again Marti – lol – this bit of sarcasm has been real and fun, but not real fun. LOL!
And x, y, z) if I ever develop a split-personality, I want to be the Christian god and Thor with a little Jim Carrey thrown in. Oh the FUN we would have!
I have heard from several posters here using my public email. Thank you!
For the few who have sent rather bizarre emails, I have four words for you.
ROLLING ON FLOOR LAUGHING! (ROFL, for short)
Get the point?
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RB
Dec 09, 2011 @ 19:21:09
captamerica1
What can I send you to your private email address. Is it ghostwalker@brokenwall.com ? Some CIA/NSA/DHS/FBI name or some proper email address, just tell me. and I’ll send you future emails to your email address.
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captamerica1
Dec 09, 2011 @ 18:19:30
That is not my name.
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RB
Dec 09, 2011 @ 16:18:04
Hey captamerica1!
As a follow up: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/03/03/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/
Worth Reading I think.
Final comment. I think our “Founding Fathers” (Hamilton, Franklin, Washington, Adams, etc..), would be “Turning in their Graves”, upon all “Constitutional Laws” that have been “usurped” with “Federal Judges” and re-written, and I have been violated with that, since 10-31-1989 (with my case in Eastern Federal Court, Brooklyn, NY), with a crooked Federal Judge (named Edward Korman) and a Federal Prosecutor (Andrew Luger), that “violated about 25 Federal Laws afforded to a defendant”. Both should be brought up charges, with being thrown into a real hardened Federal Prison (not the cushy ones).
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RB
Dec 09, 2011 @ 15:51:10
Jee! How many websites does DHS, CIA and FBI run? this is getting quite old. But I want them (CIA, FBI, DHS, etc..) to keep a motto on the front building where they work and on their foreheads (so when they look a the mirror of themselves can see it every time) “Human Stupidity is Job Security”
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RB
Dec 09, 2011 @ 15:13:46
Hey! John Nutter!,
I guess the CIA/FBI/DHS screw up when they make a ‘hyperlink’ and the ‘hyperlink’ is not ready, as because of a few minutes ago, didn’t take me to article. And they fixed it really quick.. I think I’m going to die, just from the incompetence, ineptness, that the FBI, CIA, DHS do, and the lies in addition..
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RB
Dec 09, 2011 @ 15:00:16
Hey! captamerica1
As a follow up: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/03/03/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/
Worth Reading I think
With your name being “John Nutter”, makes me think very close to the liar FBI agent on indictment/conviction back in 10-31-1989, “Larry Wack”, How much bogus’es and bullshit can I take with everything. I think I’m going to pass (die), just from the B.S., that “Asso’CIA’ted News Press and Reuters News service spew down our throats everyday.
I’m going to change my name to “Robert Flipped”, how about that??
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captamerica1
Dec 09, 2011 @ 11:49:14
As a follow up: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/03/03/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/
Worth Reading I think
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captamerica1
Dec 08, 2011 @ 23:26:02
I do not know what you did or saw.
I appears we are on the verge of something very dangerous for the US today.
Our Congress is passing bills without consent of their people, and if they don’t the president does what he wants anyway.
I know that when I was in the Eastern Med, cruising up and down the coast of Israel, with 5 min. Cats. pilots in planes sitting on the catapult waiting. Angels waiting on the deck for evacuation orders to clear out the Americans. We could see the lights from the coastal towns. We were on at GQ. We were there for a week. Armed Marine guards at all entrances to the Hanger Bay.
I was on duty in the HB. I saw the Nukes.
I saw them loaded on the planes.
I read the coded messages.
Israel invading Lebanon is the only reason it ended. We were given some sort of commendation medal. I never bothered to go and get it. It was the end of my enlistment. I was getting out, medals and ribbons never meant anything to me.
Believe it did not happen if you want. There are some 6000 sailors and support people that also know.
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captamerica1
Dec 08, 2011 @ 23:06:03
Cutting off of Entitlements?
I don’t see that right away. That is what is helping to BK the country. If the Illegals etc. stop getting their freebies, we will then see riots and other problems.
I see the government diluting the economy even further.
the key, as I see it is the price of gold and silver. Figure Gold at its $32 per oz.
Look at where it is today to see how much they have diluted the economy so far.
The US is very rich in Gold as is Canada, however if the US is allowed to mine it, then they lose control.
There are two States that have gold that is pretty easy to get to. 1. NY 2. Missouri they have the same geological structure as South Africa.
Of course the Rocky Mountains and California have tons of gold, but very little production. None from NY. in fact, the mines where they would have discovered it have been shut down. All part of the plan.
England is still upset that we won the war.
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RB
Dec 08, 2011 @ 20:44:26
Hey! captamerica1 (From your Diatribe as below..)
“I am sorry to disagree with you on nuclear war with the Soviets.
Go ahead and deny it, you were not there, I was. Your denial is without basis.”,
As I proved a bit of “shenanigans”, with the USDOJ courts and USDOJ Prisons, I consider much much stuff “SUSPECT” with any degree of being genuine and real. With Inmates working for Feds, posing as “Prisoners”, I cannot believe anything anymore, everything is “SUSPECT”!.
Just like when back in Spring 1990 in Metropolitan Correction Center, 150 Park Row, NY, NY coming back from Butner FCI, Butner, NC on Floors 9 North (or 9 South) seeing and recognizing FBI agents posing as Prisoners on the Floor. But that’s not the icing on the cake, whats the icing on the cake, is while on the floor for about maybe a 1 week, none of the FBI agents payed attention to the News, Read Newspapers, watched the (MSM) T.V. News, as I observed them. And that was back in Spring 1990, so what does that tell you, that much stuff we see and hear from Government (Globalist/Elitists/Bankers (Rothchilds, Bilderbergs, Harrimans, Koch Family, etc..), is all “BOGUS” and lies!!!
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RB
Dec 08, 2011 @ 20:06:52
And P.S. Keep in mind captamerica1!
Nobody, but Nobody!, of Government (Globalists/Eltiists/Bankers (Rothchilds, Bilderbergs, Harrimans, Rockfellers, etc..) “Movers and Shakers” came into the Long Island/NY metro area during the 1945 developments of the “Levittown Developments”, makes you think even more!!
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RB
Dec 08, 2011 @ 20:01:59
captamerica1
I do believe you are right, and a Civil War 2, is coming to American Soil, as you can see the stress on the roads, and all. And I believe Ground Zero will be the Long Island/NY metro area, as it was SETUP from the developments of the Levittown City, that started the SETUP and the progressive leaving of the “Aristocratic Families” on Long Island/NY metro. You put many things of the puzzle together, you get the answer to many things about Long Island/NY metro area.
#1 Levittown, NY Developments built for all the “Screw Ups” of the U.S. Military Force, from 1945. (Major 5 Bridges were built connecting Long Island with Mainland). Levittown, NY later seeded the other suburbia cities from Brooklyn, to Montauk, NY
#2 Most if not all “Aristocrat Families” have left or leaving Long Island, NY around 1945.
#3 Jews of Europe and many Jews enter Long Island Suburbia 1945 to 1950’s.
#4 “Blacks and Latinos” of South (because of highest “Entitlements”) come into the Long Island/NY area around, 1950’s in the Ghettos and Projects of the Long Island/NY metro area. Like a “Price is Right” Episode- “Come on down…”
#5 “Entitlements” getting tight and removed around 2011.
#6 Many roads on Parkways being finished with retrofitting for 200,000 pound weight (Greater than the 14,000 maximum limit for heaviest legal Car weight) on Parkway Roads, like Sagitos, Robert Moses Pkwy, to Ocean Pkwy.
The Puzzle and Answer is there, Long Island/NY metro area was SETUP and the “SETUP” is coming to the “END”.
Probably combination of cutting off “Entitlements”, with Looting and Rioting to soon follow, and then probably some “Biological Hit”, with later “Martial Law” and Military Operations on Long Island/NY, after (5 major) Bridges Cutoff, and Boat Traffic Stopped.
If it looks like and duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, smells like a duck, ITS 1000% a DUCK! “Long Island/NY Metro Area” was a “Complete SETUP” from 1945.
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captamerica1
Dec 08, 2011 @ 18:35:32
I am sorry to disagree with you on nuclear war with the Soviets.
Go ahead and deny it, you were not there, I was. Your denial is without basis.
I was in areas Off Limits. I had a very high Top Secret clearance. I considered myself a spectator. I saw the missiles, I saw the bombs, I saw our Aircraft loaded with Live Nukes. I talked to the ordinance guys loading them.
I saw the targets picked out.
We were days away from the end of the world.
Troops along the East coast had leaves cancelled, but no explanation as to why.
No one else talks about it, it is now history.
But the people that were involved are still alive and well.
Enough said.
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captamerica1
Dec 08, 2011 @ 18:27:03
Our roads were built for heavy tanks and trucks. If you want an interesting search, look into “Fema Army” Why does Fema spend 80% of its budget buying military hardware?
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RB
Dec 08, 2011 @ 13:52:12
And P.S. captamerica1!
Probably something is going to happen on American Soil, as 2 reasons:
#1 Globalist/Elitists/Bankers (Rothchilds, Bilderbergers, Harrimans, Koch Family) want it to happen (or realistically going to make it happen..)
#2 I believe you know much more than your conveying and are in the “inside”. (“Plausible Deniability” from “you”).
And Long Island/NY metro area is “Ground Zero” for everything, as this was “Planned by Design”, from 1945, with the 1st building of the “Levittown Developments”, that seeded Suburbia Long Island/NY metro area.And that doesn’t include the retrofitting (of Roads) of Robert Moses, Sagitos Parkway to Ocean Parkway, for vehicles of 200,000 pounds. (much greater than legal car limit on parkways which is 14,000 pounds) Hmmmm?????
You’ll see how much I’m 1000% on mark!!
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RB
Dec 08, 2011 @ 13:38:53
Hey! captamerica1
The US almost went to Nuclear War with the Soviet Union!, Another portrayed LIE!, it never happened. or would have happened. Soviet Union run by “Jews”, just like the USA. Just like enemies of the USA, like Iraq, Iran, Russia, you name it, all leaders pretend to be enemies of the Jews, but are really “Jews” (with better “Hollywood Productions”, with Death of so called Leader) themselves- Even “Mahmoud Ahmadinejad”, is Jewish. The Globalists/Elitists/Bankers (Rothchilds, Bilderbergers, Harrimans, Koch Family) are playing a different theme with enemies of the USA and Jewish People. Its all “Smoke and Mirrors” parlor trick, with a “Dog and Pony” Show, with the “Enemies of the Jews” and “Enemies of the U.S.A.” Get with the program, I already have!, since my incarceration (3 times in Federal) and figuring things out, that don’t make sense, unless much fakery. USDOJ doesn’t know what to do with me, cause I’m smarter than they are- What a dilemma?
The USDOJ, should just think of me like that movie (Japenese- 1957 movie) “Kronos”, the more you incarcerate me, “The smarter and stronger I get”!about the “USDOJ fake ass Courts”, and “USDOJ fake ass Prisons (most of them)”.
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captamerica1
Dec 08, 2011 @ 13:11:28
At least you have a skill. Unlike most college graduates today.
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charlessmoore
Dec 08, 2011 @ 05:33:12
I am a mechanic, so the cussing thing and knuckle busting I keep separated but when a bolt or part is left over (I build transmissions) I can’t help but find a new cuss word. Very funny!
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ppjg
Dec 08, 2011 @ 03:19:09
I never said YOU did any of those things. What I said was, that in all this conversation it was unfortunate that I had to delete comments that did include those things i.e., meaning from others who tried to join in but couldn’t remain civil.
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RB
Dec 07, 2011 @ 23:39:05
and P.S. ppjg!
What pray tell??, In your “convoluted or distorted logic” (and screwed up logic) am I being derogatory on???, Absolutely NOTHING!. I am stating the Truth as much as you might dislike about hearing it, this is the ABSOLUTE Truth on things!.The truth will always set you free!!
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captamerica1
Dec 07, 2011 @ 23:37:06
It does not take much as you know. About a million years ago, The US almost went to Nuclear War with the Soviet Union. I was there, and did not expect to ever come home. Word was 5 minutes after the go command, we would cease to exist.
Years later I found out that it was Israel that prevented it by going into Lebanon. They captured enough weapons to outfit 10 divisions.
Then along comes Nixon who pulled out the troops from Viet Nam, leaving our latest technology behind. That equipped the Egyptians for the ’73 Middle East War. Only this time Nixon resupplied Israel.
Now President Obama wants to pull out of Iraq and leave our weapons behind.
What could be behind that????
My guess is that when the troops come home. Get Ready.
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ghostwisdom
Dec 07, 2011 @ 23:36:59
Marti,
I generally save the cussing for when I’m under the hood of my Suburban.
But even that’s balanced out with Wrench Throwing, Knuckle Busting and Mopping up the Blood drawn from my own flaming stupidity or thoughtlessness.
I even tend to invent new cuss-words when I have parts left over. lol
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RB
Dec 07, 2011 @ 23:34:58
Hey ppjg!, Why can’t I state the truth of things (in lieu of me being Jewish myself). Its like this, there are 2 major nails slugs on the coffin of this country, and I’ll put it in simplistic terms:
#1 The Front Door Excuse (fake reason, surface reason), of parasitic Entitlement Programs that are sucking this (USA) country dry and this is a mediocre false reason, hence the name “Front Door Reason”, that of “The Blacks and Latinos”, who are “Entitlements”.
but its the real (true) reason of this country being sucked dry with the
#2 The Back Door Excuse (the real true reason) of super heavy “Entitlements (free Money)”, that of the “Hasadic and Religious Jews”, who are probably taking 5 times that amount via the scam and con games they pull with Government,. whose in cahoots.
Think of it this way, like a “Football Diversionary Play”, you think the ball and players are going left (Blacks and Latinos”-as Problem), but the truth of the matter, they are really going right! (“The Jew” -as the real Problem), but as I stress, some Jews, not ALL Jews!, -its the “Hasadic and Religious Jews”, who are the #1 Con and Scam artists for the “Entitlement Game”. No contest on that!
And me being “Jewish”, can state the “Truth”, I call things “As they are”, not “Like they are”!!!
“And the truth can and will set you free!!”
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ppjg
Dec 07, 2011 @ 23:09:59
I’ve enjoyed reading it. I don’t mind people disagreeing or debating anything…..we all need to hear all sides. I am sorry to say that I have had to delete many comments because of gross profanity, or the “its the jews!” stuff. Also, for some reason there are people who just cannot express themselves without calling someone else filthy names…..we don’t do that here.
Carry on guys! ITs a good conversation. M
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RB
Dec 07, 2011 @ 23:03:59
captamerica1!
From your last diatribe!; (2 points)
#1 If the World and USA, is run by the Globalists/Elitists/Bankers, then its just an illusion with countries and countries names (Russia, USA, Israel, France, Iran, etc..) and any War (World War 3) would be dictated by them, with clear losers, and winners, but however it would be the “Sheeple”, that would be injured, and killed, not the Globalists/Elitists/Bankers. And much displacement of survival of some living people from the War.
and if its that (with real Gladiators and Countries)
#2 Russia does take out USA and then goes after rest of World, I’m not sure Russia would be able to handle the amount of dissent, that would result out of that, it wouldn’t with its Military be able to round up, like cattle, that many people for its claim.
So with the 2 premises (points), it does matter if your a “Sheeple” cause either way, you’ll be rounded up, killed or injured for the 2 scenarios.
I actually place more emphasis on point #1.
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RB
Dec 07, 2011 @ 22:22:16
captamerica1!
Perhaps its fitting that America is getting “Radiation” from the Japanese Nuclear Plan (sort of a “Karma”) (Fukushima nuclear Plant) from an American Corporation who designed that type of Nuclear Reactor, called the “BWR Nuclear Reactor” with very little safety cooling redundancy, all designed by G.E. an American Company. And its even worse that, 3 design Engineers, whose shouts and concerns were met with dismissal from G.E. Corporate back in 1973, in stressing how very little “redundancy” (for Cooling Mechanism) was put into the Nuclear BWR design (from G.E.).
What do they say, and its as old as the “hills”- ‘What goes around, comes around”!, and the U.S.A. should learn this valuable lesson. Plus the (some) “Jews” (who had this “Liberal Bleeding Democratic Mentality”), its all going to “bite them in the ass”, with the “Minorities-with regard to “Blacks and Latinos”, that they so “gallantly” helped over time. “People love success but hate successful people”. I am not my “Grandfathers Jew”, I am quite different from that (Political Correctness/Bleeding Heart Mentality Democratic Liberal) mentality of his! and his time. But unfortunately, I am going to be the barer of all his “Screw Ups” that he did!.
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ghostwisdom
Dec 07, 2011 @ 21:54:56
PS –
The quake in Haiti was neither an act of a god nor an accident.
The UN issued a request of 13 governments to cease using HAARP for weather warfare a decade ago.
USA TODAY ran an article some time ago that featured India having asked Russia for a cyclone to clean the smog from one of it’s coastal cities.
A Russian corporation, using their own HAARP in Russia MANUFACTURED a cyclone at sea, brought it close to the city, removed the smog, then was taken back out to sea and dissipated.
The gods no longer control the weather and neither does Mother Nature!
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ghostwisdom
Dec 07, 2011 @ 21:44:55
CaptAmerica1,
First, THANK YOU MARTI!!! for allowing so much information to flourish as it has in this comments section.
If an outright bombing run were to be instigated on US soil, even the fluoride induced coma (in the water) sheep would become outraged.
Number two, it seems everyone but the media and the sheep are aware of the instability of that huge caldera called Yellowstone Nat’l Park.
A bomb in the wrong place will set it off and would dump about a foot of ash in Miami. The killing radius would be about 600 miles in every direction.
Bombs will NOT drop anywhere near it. Nor will bombs drop in East Texas or anywhere near the Tennessee Valley for the same reason as Yellowstone.
However, it is possible that a detonation 2-300 miles up would return the USA to 18th century technology as the EMP generated would wipe out EVERYTHING electronic. EFI would cease to work on newer cars.
China, Korea, Russia and Israel are capable of detonating an EMP at that altitude…as is the US.
I got out of Corporate Security in the early 80’s. In that role, I was privy to high level communications between governments.
I currently sit on the Board of an international foundation. Yet, information is squirrely at best.
Japan, for example:
It seemed outrageous that immediately following the countries refusal to continue vaccinating children (because many died from it) and basically telling the UN to Go To Hell, that the country suffered a huge quake and tsunami.
It is likely that HAARP was used to instigate their demise. There are 13 HAARP locations placed strategically around the world. The one in Japan could have been used as a Homing Device.
USA:
I found it literally amazing that Katrina occurred exactly when FEMA was running a drill based on THAT EXACT same Scenario and they just happened to be in New Orleans.
And last:
The Federal Reserve has already printed billions of dollars called Amero’s.
What that means is that the Powers That Be anticipate the dollars demise and there is a replacement in the wings.
The USA isn’t all that safe, but we are being used as a model for other governments.
And what is to be done with the dissidents? Google Gangstalking.
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captamerica1
Dec 07, 2011 @ 20:48:42
Thanks, for your comments. I do have my doubts about the burning the burning thing. However, this plan was specifically called for in the ‘Soviet War Plans’ document I read in the early to mid ’80’s. That same idea was later confirmed to me in unrelated meetings by other Defense companies that I used to visit for my business. In these documents the limited bombing of the US to create high radiation levels that would make the US off limits, then the Russians would turn to the rest of the world, and say that they were next! The plan called for Europe as well as the others to give up without a fight. They would then have taken over the world with only the US destroyed. The US having looted us first.
We are today, being radiated by the Japanese reactor fires, and not a word from the media. Could this end up doing the same thing?
Why are we bringing in food from foreign countries, while we have 1/4 of the Worlds farmable soil, and 1/3 of the World’s fresh water? It makes no sense.
One way or another something is up. I have to ask, Why is our government so behind the total destruction of the US economy on a scale I never expected in my lifetime.
I agree with your small “g” in gods.
The last several presidents have given away the rights to US property like the National Parks home mortgages , etc., without so much as a whimper from the Socialist media.
Could it be that they plan to leave the continent for a ‘safe’ location when the natural destruction begins in earnest?
Most people do not like to think of such things.
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ghostwisdom
Dec 07, 2011 @ 20:19:25
PS, Steve,
Our politicians KNOW about everything our Military has:
The initial version of the act, HR 2977, is the only one that makes mention of “exotic weapons systems”, listing several technologies that will be familiar to conspiracy theorists:
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
Dennis Kucinich introduced this to the House.
If he knows, guess who else does.
Not surprising though – right after it was introduced, low level chemtrail spraying stopped.
AND – if Jesse Ventura knows – so does every politician:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahI0YDrrsaU ::: watch and weep
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John
Dec 07, 2011 @ 20:02:08
Steve,
America won’t burn and there’s no reason to attack it because it is being “set up” as the NUMBER ONE nation in the Club of Rome. America and Canada will become united as one Super-nation.
Every major player for the NWO has a Headquarters in DC –
The UN; owns ALL (100%) US National parks, including Reserves,
The IMF, controls ALL US banks.
Then there’s AIPAC, WHO, WTO and Headquarters for NAFTA, GATT, etc.
These people (above) are NOT going to give up their hold on the USA. And no one is going to attack or burn them out.
The 11 Most Western States are going to be given to the International Community for various military, chemical, biological studies.
Those Americans who live there will be a) forced to move or b) highly regulated with travel greatly restricted.
http://bigthink.com/ideas/21343
If you wish to see the site that has called every major event with 100% accuracy for the last decade, go here:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/newsletters/newsalert.htm
The events around us are occurring with uncanny Biblical accuracy.
I do not believe in gods of any kind, however, I do find the Cutting Edge ministry a unique source of valid and current information.
It would seem that the Powers That Be read the Bible too, and are preparing events to make them be seen as gods themselves.
My two cents.
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RB
Dec 07, 2011 @ 14:27:09
Steve!, you said a “mouthful”, as my best friends father said (as he lived to 99 years old, G-d bless him, and he was a “Lawyer”-or as I say a “Liar”). America with its “Bleeding Heart Democratic Liberal Mentality”, created by some Jews (‘some’, I say clearly ‘some’, NOT ‘all’), He (my friends father) told me this back in the “1970’s”, that “America will be destroyed from “Within”, not from “Without”. And its funny with the Jews (some), they’re the ones that like giving to “Liberal Mentality Causes”, and I think its because of 2 reasons:
#1- If you have a “Lower Group” than you (like “Blacks and Latinos”), you no longer are the bottom fish dweller (“Scapegoat”-as in World War 2 Nazi/Holocaust) )
#2 -They have a heart for the “underdog”, as they were always “underdogs”.
I dislike those 2 premises, and subscribe to “Darwinism”, as when you support such as attitude as allowing “Low I.Q.” and “Lower Quality Stock Persons”, “Society” as a whole erodes and degrades. As ‘William Shockley’ stated and “Charles Darwin” echoed, that its the ‘Lower I.Q. Human’ that breeds the most. Its a totally wrong PREMISE to have!. (cause if you do, your “Country will eventually destroy itself”)
The “Bleeding Heart Liberal Mentality”, with the ultra breeding of the “Blacks and Latinos”, will lead to the Destruction of this once Holy Nation of the USA, if it hasn’t already done so….
I do believe the “Elitists/Globalists” have a plan for cleaning up the “Old World Order” (or as some, call it the “New World Order”), to a “New Newer World Order” as to kill off 99% of the Population, as with 2 things, especially in the “Long Island/NY metro area” (“The Perfect SETUP created circa 1945), with 2 things that will happen:
#1 Social/Welfare Support Mechanisms will be stopped with the ensuing riots/looting to happen.
#2 A “Biological Agent” hit, to happen, to kill off much people.
And it will happen, 1st on Long Island/NY metro area, as its the ‘easiest geographical area’, to isolate, quarantine, and seperate from mainland. (No acccident), as I said Long Island/NY metro area was ‘The Great American SETUP’, circa 1945. Bridges will be cutoff and Boat Traffic will be stopped. And then after percolating and brewing for awhile, then “Martial Law” will be brought in, to clean up dead bodies, maybe survivers for FEMA location for either “Death or Slave”-especially in the Long Island/NY metro area, which is “Ground Zero” for the “1st initial Event in the U.S.A.”.
You’ll see!!!
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Steve
Dec 07, 2011 @ 11:09:42
What is interesting is that this all fits the prophecy from Duduman. America will be tied up with internal problems started by the Russians (Soviets), and when they are distracted with internal troubles. The Chinese, Russians, Cubans and 7 other Nations will strike and destroy the US. America will burn.
All fits as far as I can read the News.
Russian placed, foreign born, president.
Destroy the economy by overloading it with social give away (Cloware Piven).
America could not be destroyed from the outside, it had to be destroyed from within.
Part of this also fits an article I read in a DOD publication some years ago now about the Russian War plan for the US.
I think the military is right for not showing our politicians all our capabilities. Because like Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson did, they will give it all away.
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charlessmoore
Dec 07, 2011 @ 07:57:57
I am beginning to understand what you are saying. I build engines and transmissions and I understand how they operate. I understand the electronics and the strategy involved in the function of these machines. I understand quite a bit about Law – criminal and civil. All my known generations before me were business men with sound principles and I learned them. Many things in my life I learned by observation and research. But these men that rule (Rothschild, Bilderbergers, Rockefellers and a host of others) are under a dark spell, almost as if it were a religion or cult. Everything I have learned in this four year long study of the workings of this bunch are all of a sudden no secret. Three months ago an Army NCO brought me a 1964 Chevy Impala to rebuild. He came to me from a great distance south of my shop. Told me he had found me on Facebook or the Internet and left a large deposit. I did the job and have had to go on a road service call to the Fort / Base to check a noise he thought he heard in the new engine [nothing found, ran great]. I was pulled out of a line of cars and check for license, registration and insurance while coming through the gate in route to the cars location on base. After the MP asked who I was there to visit, they immediately handed me back my papers granted me access to the base. Strange event since there are thousands of men on this base. I am getting the car back tomorrow to adjust the valves, pull the oil filter for testing & service. In the area this man is from there are many quality shops that could have done this job as well as I did and maybe at a better price. I have a feeling the Army Intel has an interest in me. If nothing but to get a fix on the guy that exposes things to the Sheeple as you call them. What do you think about this strange encounter? I don’t live in fear of these or care that they know who or where I am. Having said that – does your list below reflect a way I should also think? What is this thing about Long Island/NY metro Area coming under siege?
#1 Plausible Deniability.
#2 Cointelpro Operations.
#3 Best kept secret is one you tell nobody.
#4 Among 2 can keep a secret, if one is dead.
#5 He who travels alone, travels the fastest and furthest.
#6 The bigger enemy is from within, than without.
#7 Dead men tell no tales.
#8 From Hogans Hero’s Sargent Schultz “I know nuthin!’
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RB
Dec 07, 2011 @ 02:20:51
Hey charlessmoore! a few words and expressions for you!
#1 Plausible Deniability.
#2 Cointelpro Operations.
#3 Best kept secret is one you tell nobody.
#4 Among 2 can keep a secret, if one is dead.
#5 He who travels alone, travels the fastest and furthest.
#6 The bigger enemy is from within, than without.
#7 Dead men tell no tales.
#8 From Hogans Hero’s Sargent Schultz “I know nuthin!’
I’ll think of a few more for you…(these are ones I base my life on, and I’m sure Uncle Scam/Uncle Sham/Uncle Boris does too!)
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charlessmoore
Dec 07, 2011 @ 00:36:04
I thought about this with the OWS promoters and wondered if they are part of a bigger plan to fire up the people and eventually turn the crowds into targets.
You make me think there RB!
Thanks
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RB
Dec 07, 2011 @ 00:09:28
And BTW charlessmoore!, OWS is a fake out, just like ACORN, Tea Party, they all represent the Globalist/Elitiists/Bankers with a “Cointelpro type Operation” with playing both sides of fence”, a strategy gotten and developed 2500 years ago with Sun Tsu’s “Art of War’ on how to fight an enemy. This is as old as the hills with this strategy, as far as “OWS” (many Government Provocateurs at the top of the pyramid of OWS) – all bogus, lied, and manipulated and hoodwinked/bamboozled/duped for the Common Masses (Sheeple).
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RB
Dec 07, 2011 @ 00:03:52
charlessmoore!
A few things on your last comment, #1 Bankers/Globalists/Elitists run whole World & USA sh’bang. (think they started in 1945 about’s) #2 Once you control the communications (of any form, voice, text, emails, etc.. and that includes this internet forum), media, and money supply (jobs, money) , you control the People (Sheeple). #3 Once you have the Bankers (Rothchilds, Bilderbergers, Harrimans, Koch Family, etc..) run and control the “Gold”, the working “Sheeple”, will “Prostitute” (in a figurative sense) for the Support of their family (for payments, as support mechanisms, and that would be for the Cops, FBI, CIA. DHS, Military, etc..). As Thoreau said “Most men live lives of quiet desperation” (Very true). But I do believe in a “Malthusianism Event” for the “Betterment” of Society w/USA and World. The World & USA needs a purge and unfortunately many will be “much people collateral damage” for “The Event” when it happens. (I believe Long Island/NY metro area (aka “The Great American SETUP circa 1945) will be first hit, and that will be Ground Zero for other events throughout USA)
I just don’t like the fact, as in Germany, (1937 to 1945), you have “Jews”, that ended up being “KAPO’s” for the Nazi party and ended up turning in their Brethrens into the “Gas Chambers”, and its happening again, but this time on American Soil. I am not my “Granfathers Jew”!
I believe the “Blacks and Latinos” are just “Dumb Willingly Prostitutes (“In a figurative sense” and represent the “Front Door Problem” (mediocre Problem, with “Entitlements”- small fake Problem) and its “The Hasadic and Religious Jews” that represent the “Back Door Problem” (“The True Problem with scamming and very large with the “Entitlements”). Its like a “Football Diversionary Play”, you look left, cause you think ball and players are going left (Problem with “Blacks and Latinos”-with “Entitlements”)), but real play is coming from the right (with the “Hasadic and Religious Jews”, who represent the true Problem).
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charlessmoore
Dec 06, 2011 @ 23:08:36
Yes, Cindy, I fear this is the case. The American people has been scammed out of their economy by politicians who work for the World Banking System and corrupt corporations. Everything has been planned and thought out about how they are going to go about our demise. 2012 is coming and they don’t want a change in venues or the election to change this plan of theirs. This NWO is the Beast of Revelations if you believe in that sort of thing (Bible) BUT WHAT WE BELIEVE DOESN’T REALLY MATTER. If the people could understand what they are up to – millions would march on Washington with the intent on removing these men physically from their seats of power. They know this – so they have turned the weapons of war on us. Yes, they plan to kill us all with the exception of a few that willingly go into their FEMA camps.
Many of the people I know with wealth and this understanding have already fled the United States, some to South America and one to Thailand. This one has inside information about what is really going on. He said it is too late to do anything about it. He said he would stay if he though Americans would fight but they won’t. He is right just as you are, except this will be far worst than Nazi Germany ever thought about being.
I am a business owner running things on a shoestring. I could employ 10 people tomorrow on a small loan – notice no one can borrow for start up businesses or even save their existing business. The bail-out was a money grab for the bankers. They are spending it like there is not tomorrow but not on America or the fix. It is quite the opposite – they want to crash the system they own so they can finish their goals to rule this world and get rid of the drain on dwindling resources they will need to rebuild their world. Basically remove the population and reduce it to what they think is tolerable. The lazy Americans will be the first to go. They are just ignorant enough to do as they plan, giving them cause for annihilation. Thirty years + they have been working this plan to kill us in one hour. They know they can’t get us all so they will bring of the willing population into safe camps and nuke the rest. Some say it may be bio but I don’t think so. At the same time they will cause a war with Iran that will bring Russia and China down on us. They will have to start this war before the election they don’t plan on taking place, not that it would matter except all the players are already seated.
They have however made a grave error in judgement but for now I will keep this to myself.
Remember that these evil people are but flesh and blood and there is only a handful of them. Out of their element the are weak and frail just like any other man. Acceptable to disease and death just as we are. Of course they don’t drink our water or breathe our air as we do so they are sharper in their thinking. Dropping heavy medal into the atmosphere (aluminum) and fluoride in our water systems did affect us but not like they thought it would. Did you know they started the illegal drug market here in the US to destroy our youth. They did this to bring about a police state mainly.
Unlike anonymous of the OWS I will face them using my real name and face. I will not hid and I will not back down. In the end, though they destroy us they have destroyed themselves.
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RB
Dec 06, 2011 @ 20:42:44
Holocaust 2 and KrsytalNacht 2 this time on American Soil, as in Germany (1939 to 1945) there were KAPO Jews (1939 to 1945), there will now be KAPO Jews in America, circa 2011, on Amercian Soil, especially Long Island/NY metro area, which is Ground Zero for the 1st major Looting/Rioting Incident and Biological Hit Incident. All SETUP by Design” (Long Island/NY metro area (aka “The Great American SETUP circa 1945))
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Cindy
Dec 06, 2011 @ 20:04:59
I can think of one good reason this legislation is being quietly shoved through: something really, really, really bad is about to happen which is going to cause rioting in the streets and the government needs to be able to lawfully round up citizens and disappear them until such time as they don’t need to disappear them.
I would imagine that the banking system is about to collapse because getting hit catastrophically in the wallet is the only way I see lazy Americans hitting the streets with pitchforks – which is clearly what’s expected.
I feel like I’m living in 1937 Germany. I know something terrible is coming. Do I leave everything I know and love (home, job, family, friends) or do I hunker down and hope I’m wrong? I just don’t know.
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charlessmoore
Dec 06, 2011 @ 16:29:14
Yes, I was naive and taught that as an American I had worth and a voice – it was all an illusion. I have had to reverse my thinking on all of which I have been taught but cutting through the lies and manipulation of our present system of government has left me confounded. The shroud of the Dark side has falling upon the world – I wonder if George Lucas was trying to tell this generation something about what is going to happen with this government.
Thank RB, I will be weighing in on this topic and educating myself to think differently now that I know the truth.
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RB
Dec 06, 2011 @ 13:46:31
Hey charlessmoore!, Your “premise” is totally wrong, your assuming Obama is a real President with Power, Congress as unyielding Power, and same for Senate for the USA. That premise, is so weak and lacking, plus it does not hold any validity with logic. As you can see, there are currently 194 Countries in the World, and the United States is just listed as a “Common Country”, no different than any other Country. The “World and USA” to the Sheeple, are controlled, manipulated, lied to, illusioned, like a “very fine Onion”, with the “Real Power” at the center “Core” of it (Probably the Bankers (aka Globalists/Elitists) at center. You’ve been lied to, so much, in an illusional matrix, you don’t even know whats up or down anymore?? (and that includes past learned and formal education History, and current (including World, U.S., and “Small Local” News). United Nations with countries are nothing more than a “Dog and Pony” show mixed in with “Smoke and Mirrors” illusion to hoodwink, bamboozle and dupe, put fear, control and manipulation to the”Sheeple” of the countries. Get with the Program already, I already did. I outdid the USDOJ in the Prison System, cause I got them pegged, and know exactly to a “T” how they work, that’s why the USDOJ courts and USDOJ Prisons gave up on me, for further incarceration at this point (???), cause I know the “Scam” (both USDOJ Courts and USDOJ Prisons).
Keep in mind, there is something lacking in my education, as I was not schooled correctly. I do not know how to manufacture anything- Glass, Iron, Steel, Cars, Building Laptops, Building Furniture, Carpeting, Plastics, Monitors, Wires, Cables, Calculators, or what-not, any form of Widget or any form of Material for the Widget. So there is something amok with my education as I received, as I was really “Dumbed Down” for a reason…
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charlessmoore
Dec 06, 2011 @ 07:31:18
Maybe you all aren’t getting the big picture about this treasonous act. They have been planning this for many years now. They are all for a revolt and wish to bring it about ASAP. Those who want their rights restored are the target – the constitution prevents the end-game from taking place and it must go. You will have to form a coalition that has the authority of the people to go in and arrest congress and the senate for treason. Since they are in control of weapons of mass destruction and our own military we will have to start a true and factual propaganda campaign to divide the military. I don’t think our sons or daughters serving will follow them in this treasonous act they have been planning for years. Some of course will but they can be tried as traitors to the American people in court later after the war;This is part of what our military personnel need to hear from the President on down. Take the Georgia Guide stones and use it for the Elites tomb-stones. Yeah, my real name and face. I don’t plan to hide.
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RB
Dec 05, 2011 @ 22:12:13
First of all John!As a man said in the 1920’s (as I paraphrase), “If you can control the Media (distort, lie, manipulate), control the Money Supply (Jobs), and control the communications (change, modify, trick, block, delay-on Voice, Text, Emails, etc..), You can control the “Dumb Masses” (Sheeple) and this was said in the “1920’s”, so it got more tighter with everything..
#1 And keep in mind with the “Golden Rule- Those who own the Gold, Rule! (“The Bankers-Rothchilds, Bilderbergers, Harrimans, Koch Brothers, etc..), and
#2 with what Thoreau said (as I paraphrase), “Most men live lives of Quiet Desperation”, so with that, – You will have Cops, Military, FBI, CIA, DHS, KGB, any Law Enforcement, who more-or-less are nothing more than “Willingly Prostitutes (in a figurative sense)” for the Bankers (“The Man”), for the Support of their Families-Wife, Kids, Parents and etc…, they will work for the System and Not Defy it… And that’s a fact!!!
So give me a challenge to all my arguments, “You Can’t!!”
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ppjg
Dec 05, 2011 @ 21:59:34
me too John…….I stay away from those relatives
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John
Dec 05, 2011 @ 21:38:33
What you or I believe doesn’t change anything.
What needs done is to gain access to a microphone that can reach all (or 2/3) of those people who are “hooked on the MSM” and get them to get their heads out of their arses, the sand and actually think for a change.
I know some folks who believe that nothing is wrong. It’s just a phase that the nation is going through. Reporters don’t lie, with-hold the truth or falsify the news.
And sadly, I’m related to some of them.
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RB
Dec 05, 2011 @ 20:21:11
1st of all, there’s no President (Obama is just a Puppet), 2nd of all, there’s no Congress (just as facade’), 3rd of all, there’s no Senate (another facade’). Its all run by “Smoke and Mirrors Illusion parlor trick”, plus really a “Dog and Pony” show to what the News (present-all lies, for control and manipulation of the dumb masses (Sheeple)), and the History (we were taught from formal education) is mostly distorted and lied upon.
Where the True Government of USA and World is truly run, I haven’t the foggiest idea?? The Government (aka “The People behind the Curtain”) got smart from the “French Revolution” and “Russian Revolution”, to have a “None Transparent Ruling Class”, to remain, “Hidden”, “Gated”, “Invisible”, and “Not seen”. Probably in the order of some “Mafia run Government” (like the Italian Mafia, Russian (Jewish) Mafia, and American Mafia, all morphed into 1 Mafia, that truly runs the USA and World.
There’s your answer…
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John
Dec 05, 2011 @ 19:08:32
RB,
IF you want to meet me and/or hang out, use this first:
ghostwalker@brokenwall.com
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John
Dec 05, 2011 @ 19:03:32
Letter composed by ACLU (I’m NOT a fan of ACLU, but I do support this)
Feel free to copy and send to your own senator with your own info.
Dear Senator,
I am appalled that the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) passed out of the Senate with provisions that authorize the indefinite detention of civilians, including American citizens, without charge or trial, anywhere in the world. And the House of Representatives passed a version of the NDAA that authorized worldwide war, and worldwide indefinite detention, even within the U.S.
I understand that a final version of the bill may be on the House and Senate floor within the next two weeks. I urge you to vote NO on any version containing any of these dangerous provisions, which compromise the very heart of who we are as Americans.
Actual letter part that can be personalized:
I urge you to make sure that our country — and other countries far from any battlefields — do not become places where the military can throw a person in jail and let him or her waste away without charge or trial.
I am concerned that, at this very moment, secret meetings are being held by a few top members of Congress to write a new version of this outrageous affront to our constitutional rights and send it to President Obama’s desk. Further, I am concerned that a new bill could be in front of Congress, once again without so much as a hearing.
Finally, I urge you to vote against any and all efforts to send indefinite detention legislation or unlimited worldwide war authority to the White House. No president should ever have this kind of unrestrained power.
These provisions in the NDAA strike at the very heart of who we are as Americans. These provisions are inconsistent with fundamental American values embodied in the Constitution, and I strongly urge you to vote NO on any version of the NDAA that contains these provisions.
Sincerely,
John
NM
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John
Dec 05, 2011 @ 18:47:36
Marti, this is just in and goes with S1867:
Dear John,
No due process. No trial. No proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Indefinite military imprisonment based on suspicion alone.
It’s all in a bill being secretly negotiated in Congress right now. Help stop it.
Do not forward: This link will open a page with your information already filled in.
Top members of Congress are secretly meeting now to try to figure out how to jam through a dangerous bill before Christmas.
Their main focus? Legislation authorizing this president and all future presidents to order the U.S. military to pick up and imprison people, including U.S. citizens — without charging them or putting them on trial.
We need you to take immediate action to prevent our country from becoming a place where the military can throw a person in jail and let him or her waste away without charge or trial. (Do not forward: This link will open a page with your information already filled in.)
(I removed the hyperlinks)
Let’s be clear about what this proposal really is: no due process, no trial, and no proof beyond a reasonable doubt — and indefinite military imprisonment based on suspicion alone.
A handful of senators secretly came up with this outrageous indefinite detention provision and attached it to the National Defense Authorization Act. And an even smaller group of House members forced through the House of Representatives a law for worldwide war, and worldwide imprisonment, in virtually any country where a terrorism suspect lives, even here in America itself.
The House and the Senate are now rushing to come up with a joint version of the bill and ram it through Congress within the next two weeks.
We know Congress is starting to hear from people who are outraged by this proposal. And if we continue to keep the pressure on, we can stop this. But it’s going to take all of us.
Contact your members of Congress right now. Urge them to vote against indefinite detention and unlimited worldwide war authority legislation.
The Secretary of Defense, the Directors of the FBI and CIA, and national security experts from both Democratic and Republican administrations have argued against this extreme measure. But, as you read this, secret talks in Congress to force it quickly to final passage continue unabated.
Only a huge public outcry can prevent Congress from crossing a dangerous line that is a direct affront to everything we believe in.
Final action on this bill could come at any moment. Whether you’ve acted on this issue before or not, we need you to speak up now. Please contact your members of Congress immediately.
With urgency,
Chris Anders, ACLU
Senior Legislative Counsel
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RB
Dec 05, 2011 @ 15:07:05
Hey John! Do you live near Park City Utah, near Salt Lake City, UT, I don’t mind being there, it would be a pleasant change from Long Island/NY metro area (aka “The Great American SETUP”, circa 1945)
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RB
Dec 05, 2011 @ 14:17:53
To “Charlessmoore’: Hey Charlessmoore, you can hide, as much as you want, in caves, in mountains, in crevices, anywhere, but it isn’t going to stop “The Disease”, whether it be a virus, bacteria, disease of any sort, that will be in the ‘Air’, World Wide and USA (territory) wide, there’s nothing short of being in a isolated controlled purified underground Environment, that’s going to stop the disease (whatever it is???) to killing you. It will get you (like that song ‘Sooner or later, we’re going to get you, blah blah blah..), there’s no place to hide on this Planet Earth, for the disease, not to terminate your ‘life energy’, almost akin to the 1918 Spanish Flu, which wiped out 2/3rd of Europe and 1/4 of the U.S.A. , and that doesn’t include the “Black Plaque”, which I believe, wiped out almost 70% of World Population, Its coming, “The Event” (aka “The Kill Off”) and perhaps “The Elite” probably have (and had) something to do with it…
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RB
Dec 05, 2011 @ 14:05:44
So John!, Let me meet you and when “TSHTF” in the Long Island/NY metro area, I’ll come to your area and hang out. I’m a ‘minimalist’, so I won’t take much to be with you and your area. BTW 2 points:
#1 George Washington, with his so called meeting with the ‘Angel’, about the rough part of this country development, (when this country was established), the ‘Angel’ told him of the 1st Civil War, (brother versus brother), World War 1, World War 2, and then the finality of this country (the 2nd Civil War-which I believe is here and coming) to end this Country.
#2 ‘Malthus’, a Reverend, did economic trends theory, back in 1700’s and said basically the Human Population will expontentially move up, while resources will not be met for the Human Population. Much has been developed with his theory, and then further that there has to be 2 types of Malthusian Events (Kill offs of Humans) to lower Human Population a) a Natural (Universe-Mother Nature) Event -Asteroid Hit, Earthquake, Tsunami’s, Disease. -AND/OR- b) a Manmade Event -Nuclear, Modified Biological Disease, Chemical, etc…
So with that I do believe both of these are being done by the Globalists/Elitists, cause they recognize the problem. (with 7 billion people on this Earth Planet now, it has to be significantly brought down.
And BTW I always think of myself as beyond the common ‘Sheeple”, so perhaps, I could some “Elitist” blood in me (worth to be saved- ‘I am worthy’)
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John
Dec 05, 2011 @ 05:33:44
So true, Mr. Moore.
The only demands that will ever be met are those of the so-called elite.
Sorry, RB, a 20 cent bullet is cheaper than your demands. They won’t be met. You have a better chance of winning the lottery or becoming immortal.
I live at 8400 feet. Far above the BS and squirrely crap seen in the cities.
For me, it’s 50′ and I’m lost in the mountain forests with more caves than most people know of.
And I believe you are right. Civil War 2 is coming.
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RB
Dec 05, 2011 @ 04:02:53
Just let the Mafia Government do he right thing with me…That’s all and I won’t be a problem.
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RB
Dec 05, 2011 @ 04:02:02
All I know is the Country (U.S.) is run by the mafia, all morphed into 1 (that is the Italian Mafia, Russian (Jewish) Mafia and American Mafia), as I witnessed in MDC, Brooklyn, NY back in 2002 to 2004 abouts (forgot exact date), but Peter Gotti, is no dummy, he has a photographic mind with regard to cards, and he got special treatment (as a supposed Prisoner) on the floor of MDC, that’s because he was nothing more than an internal Correction Agent on the Floor, he worked for the Mafia Government Family. It took me awhile to figure things out on many many things, but have,the USDOJ courts, USDOJ Prisons, are nothing more than a scam with ‘smoke and mirrors” illusion, lies, fear, control and nothing more than a ‘dog and pony;’ show. The USDOJ knows I’m smarter than them, so they can get rid of me the right way, as I have 5 demands, to be met…Obama doesn’t run county, either does Congress or Senate, all bogus.
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charlessmoore
Dec 05, 2011 @ 03:14:57
Here is the whole thing in a nutshell. The elites are just that and not just in their thinking. We are an expendable commodity that has soiled and have become unusable. They have no intentions on restoring an economy for the American workers or doing anything to accommodate the next generation who got an expensive education. You have missed their point and that is, they have think-tanks and wealthy men dictating to them the big picture and what they want done about it. There is only so much raw material that can be pulled from the earth to support such a large population and all of us must go in their book. You are a drain on the resources they have plans for in the near future they all envision (though it is falsehood since it is demons they follow). They want a New World Order and they have worked for better than a 100 years now to get it. There is a unholy alliance with the rulers of this world and this group of men. As for what these men are up too, it has obviously come into focus for the writers on this site. Most Americans have had no noticeable changes affect their freedoms directly yet. I live in Missouri near the Ozarks – a standing army of 100,000 would have a hard time rounding up the hunters in these hills. A place Google spy net can’t go. I can disappear 20 feet away from you and have a drop on you at the same time. Yeah, it might very well come to that and I can tell you without a doubt it has already been on their minds. How do I know this? Research Operation Garden Plot and you will see how you are the threat, and have been for years.
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ghostwisdom
Dec 04, 2011 @ 22:35:56
Speaking before Congress in 1957, Nevada Senator George W. Malone stated:
“I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election…It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!”
If people in 2011 fully understood the implication of S1867, Agenda 21 and the desires of the Global Elite, which is to return the planet back to 18th century technology, while “they” enjoy the fruits of advanced technology and capitalism…
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John
Dec 04, 2011 @ 21:54:25
RB, here’s a crash course on Maurice Strong:
http://sovereignty.net/p/sd/strong.html.
If you wish to give Marti Oakley’s bandwidth a break, my public email is ghostwalker@brokenwall.com. Anyone is welcome to contact me thru it.
Personally, I prefer to do what’s right to help “the many”. I am doing just fine in spite of the fascist scenario in the USA.
Any help one receives from this government is like playing poker with a stacked deck – just when you think you’ve won big…you lose.
The Jews, the Zionists, Bilderbergers, the Protocols of Zion and the Illuminati are all “Front Groups” to give people some ghosts to chase while the Man With The Plan continues to reform the planet to his liking.
Maurice Strong is the man behind them all…
Strong has worked diligently and effectively to bring his ideas to fruition. He is now in a position to implement them. His speeches and writings provide a clear picture of what to expect. In 1991, Strong wrote the introduction to a book published by the Trilateral Commission, called Beyond Interdependence: The Meshing of the World’s Economy and the Earth’s Ecology, by Jim MacNeil. (David Rockefeller wrote the foreword). Strong said this:
“This interlocking…is the new reality of the century, with profound implications for the shape of our institutions of governance, national and international. By the year 2012, these changes must be fully integrated into our economic and political life.”
He told the opening session of the Rio Conference (Earth Summit II) in 1992, that industrialized countries have:
“developed and benefited from the unsustainable patterns of production and consumption which have produced our present dilemma. It is clear that current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class — involving high meat intake, consumption of large amounts of frozen and convenience foods, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work-place air-conditioning, and suburban housing — are not sustainable. A shift is necessary toward lifestyles less geared to environmentally damaging consumption patterns.”
Now you know who orchestrated the demise of the USA “middle class”, invented Agenda 21 and wants the entire world to live in abject poverty while the monied elite grow richer on the blood, sweat and tears of the impoverished peoples of every race, culture and creed.
jpn
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RB
Dec 04, 2011 @ 17:12:06
And P.S. John!, as I paraphrase you-
And Holy Sht! Roads built for tanks is old news! News from the 50′s. (1956)/ The interstate system was built for the military…but since they didn’t have a war on this soil, they allowed it to be used by the citizenry.
As of yet, but the Second Civil War (Military Vehicles on roads, and even Parkways) is coming to “America” on American Soil, and it will be launched 1st on the Long Island/NY metro Area, as it was SETUP 66+ years ago. The crescendo is coming, and “Long Island/NY metro” very easily to isolate, quarantine, with closed bridges, and stopped boat traffic, its “The Perfect SETUP” (too Perfect!!). There are no accidents in life….
And as far as not being “Old World Order” into “New World Order”, perhaps your right!, John, so we’re now going into the “New New World Order”.. For correction of the semantics…and “nomenclature”, “a rose by any other name is still a rose”, and as Benjamin Franklin stated (and I fixed up his expression) “The things you can be certain in life, are “Death, Taxes (and “Change”)”…
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RB
Dec 04, 2011 @ 17:01:04
And P.S. if ‘Maurice Strong’ is a ‘Hasadic’ or ‘Religious Jew’, then I know you ‘mean business’, as I have deducted in life (who the real problems are in this ‘Planet Earth’-‘Some type Jews’), it goes like this:-> “The Blacks and Latinos (‘Entitlements’) are the ‘Front Door Problem’ (mediocre Problem, fake ass Problem) with the U.S.A., its the “Hasadic and Religious Jew’ (Larger Entitlements), who are the top scammers, that represent the ‘Back Door Problem’ (the True Problem). Sort of like a ‘Football Diversionary Play”, you look left, and think Ball and Play are coming from Left (Blacks and Latinos), whereupon the real play is coming from the Right (Hasadic and Religious Jews). P.S. Jews will turn their owen brethrens in as a “KAPO Jew”, even as so much to break “Constitutional Laws afforded to Defendants”, as in my 10-31-1989 case with a Kapo Jew Federal Judge (Edward Korman) of Eastern Federal Court, Brooklyn, NY and a Kapo Jew Federal Prosecutor (Andrew Luger), that they both should be put into a pool of hungry “100,000 Red Belly Piranhas”, either that, or put into real Federal Animal Prisons, with some of the inmates, they put away, so they can be f*&ked up the ass, and squeal like a pig from the bad ass inmates.
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RB
Dec 04, 2011 @ 15:52:45
John, never heard of Maurice Strong, will look it up, unless he’s part of the Bankers (like Rothchilds, Koch Family, Bilderbergs, Harriman), that’s a new one on me. Government learned from French Revolution, and Russian Revolution to keep a hidden, secret, gated, invisible Goverment,and Non transparent Government. Much stuff on this Planet is done with “Smoke and Mirrors’ Illusion, and misinformation, disinformation, lies, control, and etc.. Take for instance the whole Federal Prisons, much a lie and fabrication, with lies, fear and control, all choreographed and orchestrated with theatrics at the Prison, of choice, with much inmates staged actors (rough house actors, like a WWF wrestling match). Case in point, got blood on me, from a stabbing that happened in Otisville FCI, Otisville, NY, as I got some blood on me (as I thought it was Human), it didn’t dry like Human Blood, it was with much Preservative in it. I broke through the illusion and the USDOJ, knows I did, and there’s not much they can do with me. I’m a lost cause.
Actually there is something, they can do: (scam ass USDOJ System, with scam ass Federal Courts, scam ass Federal Prisons (and I will list them in order)
1- Fix my medical/neurological/brain problems up.
2- Throw me 5.00 Million dollars to disappear.
3-Get me a house in Southern California, nice size, away from ‘entitlement areas’
4- Get me some nice women that I can engage with.
5- Get me maybe a nice job, to keep me occupied, and not bored.
And there’s how the USDOJ can get rid of me as a Problem.
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John
Dec 04, 2011 @ 02:41:40
————Who cares John as long as I get layed, don’t really give a f*&k with “Old World Order”, “New World Order”, “Jetsons Order”, “Flintstone Order” I don’t really care. ————
Who cares? Everyone who posted their opinion here, including you RB.
Uncaring is thoughtless, un-affectionate and detached of which you are none of those because if you were…you wouldn’t have posted anything at all.
So, by your posts, you obviously “do” care.
And Holy Sht! Roads built for tanks is old news! News from the 50’s. (1956)
The interstate system was built for the military…but since they didn’t have a war on this soil, they allowed it to be used by the citizenry.
You know something is wrong. So does every poster on this article.
The difference is that some of us know who is behind whats wrong and are doing something about it.
The man at the very top of the Food-Chain and is orchestrating world affairs to his standard is Maurice Strong. He advises the UN, the World Bank (IMF), Canadian politics, American politics and various other world-changing entities.
You can contact him through the United Nations.
That is the enemy RB.
Not me, not S1867, not the other posters…Maurice Strong.
He is THE ONE who wants the ENTIRE world to be a Third World Planet.
Maurice Strong has demonstrated an uncanny ability to manipulate people, institutions, governments, and events to achieve the outcome he desires. Through his published writings and public presentations he has declared his desire to empower the U.N. as the global authority to manage a new era of global governance. He has positioned his NGO triumvirate, the IUCN, WWF, and the WRI, to varnish U.N. activity with the perception of “civil society” respectability. And now he has been appointed Senior Advisor to the U.N. Secretary General and assigned the responsibility of reforming the United Nations bureaucracy. The fox has been given the assignment, and all the tools necessary, to repair the hen-house to his liking.
We all know what he’s done…
What we need is idea’s on how to circumvent his plans and return to sanity.
Got any???
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RB
Dec 04, 2011 @ 00:22:02
Who cares John as long as I get layed, don’t really give a f*&k with “Old World Order”, “New World Order”, “Jetsons Order”, “Flintstone Order” I don’t really care. I personally I’m beginning to believe more and more what my History Teacher told me in 11th Grade, History is told by the Victors, and they can be true bastards and distorters with what was true, real History. I know something is a’brewing, especially in the Long Island/NY metro area, especially with what they did with D.O.T. projects on Parkway Roads, like Robert Moses, Sagitos, and Ocean Pkwy meet Roads. They used strong rebar embedded in these Parkway Roads for Vehicles greater that 14,000 pounds, like 200,000 pounds, which is way past limit on heaviest S.U.V.’s (largest car limit on S.U.V.’s), which mean for like heavy military vehicles on Parkways.
Government, aka Globalists/Elitists (aka Bankers) are like ‘shrewd Chess Players’, they get all their pieces in place (do fore moves, way before, like a talented chess game), innocuously from the General Population, they do it right under their noses, like common D.O.T. Projects, which are Government Projects. Hence, doing D.O.T. projects at major escape roads and road highways (Parkways) with Heavy Rebar embedded in Pkwys is a subtle hint, I would think.
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John
Dec 03, 2011 @ 20:44:53
RB and the other NWO proponents,
this bill, S1867, is a NWO (UN) demand that allows this NWO government to kill it’s dissidents…JUST LIKE Germany did under Hitler, Pol Pot did, Idi Amin did, Nero did, Stalin did and China does.
The only people in FEMA camps will be dissidents and not necessarily decent.
The NWO is going to be brutal and an exercise in Satanic Ritual Abuse.
Here’s what you’ll willingly consent to if you support the NWO:
Sustainable Development’ sounds like a nice idea, right? Agenda 21 and Sustainable Development are really cloaked plans to impose the tenets of Social Justice/Socialism on the world.
At risk from Agenda 21;
Private Property ownership
Single-Family homes
Private car ownership and individual travel choices
Privately owned farms
Your only purpose under the NWO will be to “sustain” the lives of the elite.
You will be required to consent to Codex Alimentarius (eat GMO food – frankenfoods), mate with a spouse of “their” choice and give your child to the State for whatever purpose IT desires including prostitution, work for 15% of what you produce (extremely high taxes), be totally controlled from the cradle to the grave (submit to high regulatory conditions).
Many of you don’t have a clue what you’re asking for when you support the NWO.
Corexit in the Gulf was an Agenda 21 plan that killed or poisoned sea life.
ALL of those dead birds and animals was the result of “spraying them” with barium and aluminum – Agenda 21 – chemical test to eliminate food for those who refuse to be the property of FEMA.
Patented genes allows Pharmaceutical company’s to claim ownership of humans.
Homosexual marriage is an Agenda 21 plan to destroy “the family”.
Persecution of Christians is an Agenda 21 plan to introduce Luciferianism.
Class Warfare is Agenda 21 to the bone!
Now, you go be a communist while I fight off your hither swarms of feds (fools).
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John
Dec 03, 2011 @ 20:09:52
Dear RB
You said:
No!, its correct, time to bring in the “New World Order”, as to the “Old World Order”, didn’t work and “was and is” bringing down the U.S. & World System.
FYI:
The Old World Order began being corrupted in 1871 with the 34th Congress.
You and I were “born into the slavery of” the order we now live in…which is the beginning of the NWO of conquest and destruction of everything decent.
Those who propose and finance the NWO are the same people financing BOTH sides of every war as a means of justifying the self-imposed “right” to decide the fate of every human being.
What you’ve seen since your birth is the birthpangs of the NWO. You are NOT old enough to have lived in the Old World Order.
The NWO is ALL YOU KNOW by experience. The OWO was demolished with it’s freedoms when the USA gave up their gold to the Federal Reserve in 1913.
From 1914 until today, you have been living in what the NWO will be…rampant decadence, class war with struggle, highly regulated life with ZERO freedom.
You are told what to eat, where to live, who you MUST associate with and who to trust … just like a 3 year old.
You may need a babysitter to control every event in your life, but I prefer freedom and deciding my life’s course according to my beliefs.
As for me and mine…we will fight to return to decency and the Rule of Law.
To hell with the NWO and it’s communist Agenda 21 sponsored by the UN!
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John
Dec 03, 2011 @ 19:49:19
RB – You sound like someone I personally know. R U Ronald?
You’ve got to be joking. Rounding up “decent” people depends on your definition of decent and when government begins deciding who is worthy and who isn’t…well that’s when it gets scary.
But then, being tucked away in a FEMA camp kinda makes you just like those getting “support money” and the same as them, ya think?
Nah, I’d rather take my chances in the general population and “at risk” than be locked up and told what to think, say and do by people I have little to no respect for.
Besides all that, the Old World Order is built on individual freedom, property ownership and the people as sovereign.
The NWO isn’t new. It’s a remake of Nazi Socialism, Nero and conquering Rome rolled into one big dictatorship.
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RB
Dec 03, 2011 @ 17:33:52
3 things for you… (these are all possible, all, or some)
#1 Cannot believe U.S. Government that stupid, and perhaps they let it happen, cause they wanted it to happen..
#2 There is some agenda (why? I don’t know why??) to allowing 9/11 to happen.
#3 U.S. Government got hijacked (not same Government, as before) and its the Mafia Government (Italian Mafia, Russian (Jewish) Mafia, American Mafia-morphed into 1 Mafia) that’s in control, and believe in a “Machievellian Type” Event- “End justifies means”, if you have to kill off 17.00 million Long Island/NY’ers, out of 17.50 million, then just do it…Its for the “Betterment of Society” and 9/11 was just a “PreText” for a much much larger event…(like a Malthusianism Event (either Manmade or Universal/Mother nature (non Manmade) -Frankly I’ll go with the “Manmade Malthusianism incident”)
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RB
Dec 03, 2011 @ 17:23:41
Hey John!, When the men in Black come, @ night, I’ll just “let them take me”, all the “decent people” are going to be rounded up (into FEMA internment camps), until the human/insecticiding of the “General Population”, is achieved, then the “New World Order” will start with the Cleansing of the Population (Euthanasia, Eugenics, and Genocide all wrapped into 1), that was allowed to fester and multiply for the longest time.. Time to get rid of “The Old World Order” and bring in the “New World Order”, at least you’ll reduce the (General) Population on whose getting support moneys. “Very few are worthy, @ most…”
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meliposa59
Dec 03, 2011 @ 16:54:27
It’s happening as we speak.
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Passage of S.1867: Our Enemy is Within « Theupliftingcrane's Blog
Dec 03, 2011 @ 07:03:18
Z
Dec 03, 2011 @ 06:48:21
I am not finding discussion of this in the regular press. Why is it not more widely discussed?
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RB
Dec 03, 2011 @ 01:48:27
I’ll go willingly, besides, its the General Population that will be exposed to bad situations, the Locked Up FEMA population will be safe. Just think of George Costanza logic from Seinfeld, or Bizarro World from Superman.
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John
Dec 02, 2011 @ 21:07:20
And the 2 questions are:
1) What are you going to do when the Men in Black come after you or your neighbor, friend or relative?
2) Will you whine into slavery; or will you fight back?
1a) Our whole town has chosen to fight.
2a) We will fight. (I will fight!)
We would rather die free than live as a slave.
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RB
Dec 02, 2011 @ 16:42:03
Mr. captamerica1!, Your forgetting 1 Important thing, with the Bankers (Rothchilds, Bilderbergers, Harrimans, Rockefellers), its called “The Golden Rule: Those with the Gold, Rules!”, as its been like that for a long time with the Bankers, but its not really Money, that means anything, its really about “Blood, Sweat and Tears” (Slavery) (that get converted into some form of Gold) of the Sheeple for the Bankers, that’s what’s it’s all about…
Globalists/Elitists (Bankers) can get rid of me as a “Thorn on their Side”, for a few options- #1 Solve my medical problems. #2 Set me up with 5.00 Million to disappear into the U.S. Sunset, never to be heard from again… #3 Get me a nice house on the West Coast (away from Entitlement Peoples), probably near Southern California. And that will probably do it…
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RB
Dec 02, 2011 @ 16:28:02
Its all about the money for the scam USDOJ Federal courts and scam USDOJ Federal Prison System, and its going to be my life mission, to take this scam ass USDOJ System Down, if its the last thing I do on this Planet Earth. Its all about the money!!
And the System (USDOJ) organizers, get pissed when your smarter than they are…U.S. Government (Italian Mafia, Russian (Jewish) Mafia, and American Mafia), that’s what Uncle Scam/Uncle Sham is made up of…(Even with my Hydrocephalus), still smarter than the System (USDOJ)… Ain’t it a dam shame…
Obama (a Puppet), Senate (a facade’), Congress (a facade’), are just mere shells, and same with the “White House”, just a large fake out by a “Hidden, Gated, Invisible, Non Transparent Ruling Government”.
All run by the Bankers (Rothchilds, Bilderbergers, Harrimans, Rockefellers), that’s who runs this World and USA land mass Territory.
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captamerica1
Dec 02, 2011 @ 15:54:49
Experience hath shown, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson
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RB
Dec 02, 2011 @ 14:16:26
No!, its correct, time to bring in the “New World Order”, as to the “Old World Order”, didn’t work and “was and is” bringing down the U.S. & World System. Time to do a clean up, with all the crap, that has festered, multiplied, parasited much too long. Its a good combination of “Eugenics”, “Genocide” and “Euthanasia”. Bring it on,…to bring the U.S.and World into the next Century…pseudo Congress and pseudo Senate and Puppet Obama (or as I say the Secret, Hidden, Gated and Non transparent ruling Government), did it right this time!!With passing this provision, now let the real crazyness and fun begin…
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Kim
Dec 02, 2011 @ 12:46:57
“I perfer dangerous liberty to peaceful servtitude” Thomas Jefferson
“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those that believe they are free” Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
To those that still think indefinite detention for American citizens is permissibly because someone is a “Muslim American” is someone who has never studied our Constitution or History!!!! I would rather be free and live with the possibility of being blown up that having the government enslave me. Welcome to the Third Reich ….this is how the holocaust was permitted to happen…because the people allowed it to
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DanTheMan
Dec 02, 2011 @ 11:34:23
It is amusing to me that those who acknowledge the fallacy of law and the illusion of our system would look to our system to protect them. If they want to make you disappear it is simple enough regardless of law and its illusion of protections. Are you important enough or threatening enough to make your disappear? Probably not. The answer to all of this lies in the one who gave you life in the first place. If you seek God, he will safeguard your freedom, he will confound your enemies, he will be your good friend and protector. Freedom is everywhere and nowhere. It is a state of mind.
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Emma Sue Buchanan
Dec 02, 2011 @ 08:50:32
I understand everything that Marty has written and cringe every time I read material like this. Not because the writing is bad but because the truth beneath it all is so horrible. Ten years ago I could never have believed all of this, but with my own studies and research since 2004 I have been faced with the reality of what was beginning to be written on this net is the truth. But try to tell someone who has never heard of it and keep their eyes glued to the boys on the tube report fantacy land gargage to us and is believed. They seem to believe everything that comes out of the tube.
I thank god (little g) for people like you that is educating the public little by little but it is getting through. Thanks to people like you. Only time will tell what will happen next, but it will not be good as long as it comes from the government. A thankful American Emma.
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Mr. XYZ
Dec 02, 2011 @ 08:36:24
There are a lot of Muslims who are “American citizens” and intend to do grave harm to our country. They are hiding behind their falsely obtained citizenship to protect themselves in our midst. This legislation just makes them available targets, as they should be, as domestic enemy combatants.
Only a retard thinks the 9/11 Muslim terrorist mass murders were false flag attacks. Grow a brain and take a crash-course in thinking.
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Imnaha
Dec 02, 2011 @ 07:55:40
My only disagreement with this piece is that this did NOT begin with 9 -11, it began under Clinton and the downing of flight 800. After that “unsolved ” crime the airport security was tightened up even though the downing was clearly due to a missile NOT any passenger / terrorist. It’s taken the PTW almost 20 years of orchestration and 3 puppet presidents to get us to this point.
On the other hand this could be just something to keep the people who are paying attention distracted while a much broader assault is being finalized… “War is deception” (Sun Tzu)
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Jason
Dec 02, 2011 @ 04:52:10
ALL U FOLKS DO IS TALK, U WILL NOT DO S__T!! U HAD YOUR CHANCE, YET U CALLED EVERYONE WARNING UR DUMB A–SSES, A CONSPIRACY THEORIST. NOW LOOK AT YOU? ALL BACK OF THE BUS!! COMPLAINING, LOOKING ALL STUPID. THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF “THE WOES”. THIS COUNTRY HAS “BEEN INFILTRATED”!! ALLOWING “DUAL CITIZENS” TO HOLD ELECTED OFFICES. YOUR ELECTED/SELECTED OFFICIALS ALL ARE PAYED OFF, OR SCARED SHITLESS OF CERTAIN “LOBBIES”. PATHETIC DANCING WITH THE STARS, AMERICAN IDOL, BEER DRINKING, FOOTBALL WATCHING, “USELESS EATERS” . P.S UR STUPID O.W.S. MOVEMENT IS “CONTROLLED OPPOSITION”!!
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People Of The United States
Dec 02, 2011 @ 04:29:07
These individuals who are Council For Foreign Relations, and Bilderberg Group members who have committed betrayal of the United States for the Rotschild World Criminal Enterprise and have voted for the blockage of the United States Constitution have committed 18 U.S.C. 2383 rebellion or insurrection; whoever incites, sets foot, assists, or engages in rebellion or insurrection against the Authority of the United States or the laws including the United States Constitution the supreme law of the land shall be incapable of holding any office in the United States;
And have committed the public offense of the violation of Title 18 U.S.C. 2385 Advocating overthrow of Government; whoevever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States..
And have committed the public offense of Treason, whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, … adheres to their enemies, (gives their allegiance as a member to a foreign power of the Rothshilde World Criminal Enterprise is guilty of treason and shall suffer death…
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pedro mohr
Dec 02, 2011 @ 04:24:50
One step closer to Fascism.No,Mussolini would say this is already genuine Fascism and he would know.I agree.
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Nickie
Dec 02, 2011 @ 03:45:07
This reminds me of the babylon5 television show where president Clark who assassinated president santiago, then went from vice president to president and started the ‘NIGHT WATCH’ where everyone was a suspect. Most who questioned the government were placed in camps. Sound a tad familiar???
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Chuck
Dec 02, 2011 @ 03:36:37
The criminal perpetrators of 911 are still free. They include high US government officials and foreign intelligence agents. These are the real terrorists. Any inaction on US government’s part to identify and arrest the real terrorists is suspicious an must be viewed as collaboration. The “Commission” was a cover up and all subsequent action to turn Americans into “terrorists” are continuation of the same cover-up. We the people need to realize that things have gone beyond talk and information. Only impending action will bring results.
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Passage of S.1867: Our enemy is within « Zionist Outrage
Dec 02, 2011 @ 02:26:38
John
Dec 02, 2011 @ 02:18:39
Those who passed it committed a FELONY!!!
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§ 241. Conspiracy against rights
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If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.
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Den of the Chaldes
Dec 02, 2011 @ 01:52:46
We are now become the “Evil Empire.”
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Passage of S.1867: Our enemy is within | Farm Wars
Dec 02, 2011 @ 01:46:25
Jason Lawler
Dec 02, 2011 @ 01:36:38
I have to wonder if at some point if other countries will band together and declare the US a terrorist organization, guilty of crimes against humanity, war crimes, human rights violations and a threat to world peace. The SCO (6 countries including China*Russia) will rise out of the East and Challenge NATO for power. They already have signed a declaration that if another Sovereign Country is attacked in the pretext of “humanitarianism” they will defend that country. They are working quickly to include Iran, Pakiastan, and a few other countries into the Treaty.
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RB
Dec 02, 2011 @ 01:26:14
Perhaps your right, but I fail to believe the Government (CIA, FBI, DHS) is that stupid, either 3 things (maybe 4), a) They let it happen, cause they wanted it to happen (9/11) b) They did it for a certain agenda, why I don’t know why???its beyond me. or c) The Government has been taken over by KGB and its been hijacked, and our real Government is locked up. ) We’ve been lied to on how World and USA is run, and is really run by Globalists/Elitists in concert with the Bankers (Rothchilds, Bllderbergers, and the Harriman family for a Agenda of some sort.
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Tom Lowe
Dec 02, 2011 @ 01:23:36
Carl Levin and Frank Lautenberg gave your Social Security money to their friends and relatives jumping ship from a looted USSR.
Carl Levin and Frank Lautenberg love Israel more than anything else in the whole wide world.
Carl Levin asnd Frank Lautenbertg are traitors, war criminals and financial criminals.
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JC
Dec 02, 2011 @ 01:10:07
More of the same from tired, scared old senile men who are scared of their own shadow, mortality and dishonor the very foundations from which they stand…People are waking up, our elected are fearful that we may finally realize how badly we have been screwed and sold down the river…. Peace.
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Steve
Dec 02, 2011 @ 00:54:54
911!
Anyone who believes that myth is sure to love the NWO.
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RB
Dec 02, 2011 @ 00:03:32
The fact remains the World and USA is not run the way people were taught in their formal education, and learned through their adult growing up hood. Its totally lied on Past History and Current News. We live in an illusional matrix, its been like that since 1945 abouts, with the end of WW2, supposedly. So with the Sheeple following the News, its so easy to run the Sheep to he slaughter, as far as misinformation, disinformation, lies, distortions and control and manipulation. The biggest thing is this World ad USA is run by the Bankers (such as Rothchilds, Bilderbergers, Rockefellers, and of course Harrimans). This is who runs the World and USA, and they control economy and major Wars. They are preparing for a major hit on the U.S. Territory, that of the Long Island/NY metro area, probably a combination of cutting off Social Services Welfare with the ensuing looting and rioting to follow, along in addition with a “Biological Hit”, that will cause many deaths in the Long Island/NY metro area, with Martial Laws to follow, and body and FEMA camp collection of persons used either for slave or marked for death. That is what is coming down the road for the Long Island/NY metro area. You’ll see!, they (The Globalists/Elitists are just getting the right timing down for the hit).
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Pauly
Dec 01, 2011 @ 23:28:26
Dude, the 911 was a black -op and covered up by the government.
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captamerica1
Dec 01, 2011 @ 22:59:13
It might have been different if we would have had an American born President.
Congress did nothing to challenge his credentials.
What makes us think they would do anything else to benefit the country?
Our mistake.
November is coming again.
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Don Uber
Dec 01, 2011 @ 22:47:48
Robert Longley
From Section 1031 of S.1867 as passed by the Senate…
“(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
“(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
What part of “… does not extend to citizens of the United States,” is unclear?
Mr. Longly,
The way I read it: They are not REQUIRED to detain American Citizens in military custody as they would be REQUIRED to do so with enemy combatants. It doesnt say they CAN’T!
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Joe Jefferis
Dec 01, 2011 @ 20:51:19
The Congress is moving as quickly as possible – they changed the patent laws earlier this year to obstruct the progress of this disruptive to Obama’s agenda technology:
http://www.lanl.gov/news/releases/cheaper-hydrogen-fuel-cells.html
Want to guess how long cheap hydrogen from plain water technology has been suppressed? I’m guessing it was around before they took over the automobile industry.
Next they will enact laws that force us to fuel our cars with unleaded gasoline –
oh wait they did that at the start of the Obama Administration – its called CAFE standards and it obstructs mass production and sale of vehicles that are fueled by natural gas or cheap hydrogen from plain water.
They are about to renew CAFE and prevent us from changing our fuels to change the future. Cheap hydrogen from plain water technology is not Obama green energy fundamental change.
In Obama’s new america energy prices must necessarily skyrocket and you must pay and pay until you beg the new america rulers for mercy.
It is Obama’s too big to fail plan, comrade.
Respect the world leader forever our ruler Obama’s needs.
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cylisa
Dec 01, 2011 @ 20:43:20
I just contacted my Senator’s office regarding my deep concern for portions of this bill. Importantly: where American citizens can be detained, indefinitely, for no reason, for long periods and not being charged with any crime. The Senator’s office informed me that this is not true (not a part of the bill) but just a misnomer, a rumor, etc., and directed me to read the bill at Thomas.gov. Just thought you might like to have an update on this as OathKeepers.org just sent out info regarding this same bill and the dire implications. Please go to http://www.oathkeepers.org for more info.
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Tony Giacomo
Dec 01, 2011 @ 20:14:40
McCain is THE Manchurian candidate,.
He was brainwashed by the REDS when he was in the Vietnam POW camps.
HE IS A TRAITOR !!!
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Tony Pirog
Dec 01, 2011 @ 19:14:00
Bravo Marti Oakley! Nothing to add, you said it all and said it well. Thank you.
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captamerica1
Dec 01, 2011 @ 19:00:35
Veto?
We have a better chance of seeing the Real Santa Claus.
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captamerica1
Dec 01, 2011 @ 18:58:37
Grabbing Your Rifle is exactly what they want you to do.
That way they have justification.
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captamerica1
Dec 01, 2011 @ 18:57:22
According to the Patriot Act, all you need to do is read your news on line to be considered a Terrorist.
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t-bagg
Dec 01, 2011 @ 17:13:42
I feel safer already. But what I’m really curious about is how does a Congress with a 10% approval rating, a President who is suspected of being a fraud, get to write and pass laws based on a false flag event that happened 10 years ago which created a bogus War on Terror?
The war on drugs made drugs more prevelent. The war on poverty has made poverty more ubiquitous. The war on terror….. terrorizes every person on the planet. Good job DC. How about a war on the rich? It might just make everyone rich. A war on love? Everyone will be at peace and love one another. Give it a try Congress.
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Anthony Clifton
Dec 01, 2011 @ 16:51:05
Clearly Zionazi “Crack whores” and talmudic terrorists are not “Our” government. Jesus made that abundantly clear. Liars and Murderers have no authority despite their ability to print currrency, lie from both side of their pie hole with forked toungues, and claim with unfathonable CHUTZPAH to be allegedly God’s chosen People. Americans can choose to serve the God of TRUTH and show the children of the Devil the business end of the Sword of the King. Waco/OKC/9/11 proved beyond reasonable doubt that these TARES are…[http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=139354;title=APFN]… not acting in GOOD FAITH.
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Earl Nash
Dec 01, 2011 @ 16:49:13
And, this means that the Senate is just SIX votes short of an over-ride of a supposed Obama veto…
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Dec 01, 2011 @ 16:22:11
claudius stahlkopf
Dec 01, 2011 @ 16:17:01
It will be a time for paid back, Enrage masses do not make generaly revange a picnic party , those plutocrats and their lackeys will decorate the tree like in Christmas .soon or latter
I hope the job of sanitation will be done thruly
Citizens have to make local lists . and nation wide lists of the people who should have a ticket for a cruize to hell when the time come of course , of coursewill be the expenses of good ropes , but the tree will be free , compliment of nature . Let’s see 1% plus the lackeys = 1 ??????????????? well sure we have enaugh trees
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ppjg
Dec 01, 2011 @ 16:10:41
Dearborn……We have not censored your post…we don’t have a post from you on this.
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DDearborn
Dec 01, 2011 @ 15:54:26
Hmmm
Life is full of irony. I am looking at the right side of the screen “stop internet censorship. Of course they censored my post. In fact they didn’t post it at all. There was not obcenities, no threats, no racial slurs. What exactly was the problem?
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David A. McElroy
Dec 01, 2011 @ 15:23:17
The S. 1867 Senator McCain is pushing for a final vote today will end any pretense of federal respect for any of our God-given rights. S. 1867 will destroy any pretense of justice or freedom in a society where dissent is a respected part of the political process. It is time to recall why we have the Second Amendment – and “lock & load.”
The gauntlet has been thrown down. The writing is on the wall. The time to fight is before you are shackled for that ride to the “camp”!
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hybridrogue1
Dec 01, 2011 @ 15:09:56
Mr. Longley,
The striking of an amendment stating clearly:
S.1254 included Section 1031
(d) Constitutional Limitation on Applicability to United States Persons- The authority to detain a person under this section does not extend to the detention of citizens or lawful resident aliens of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States. [This language now removed]
http://www.govtrack.us
S.1254 was the predecessor to S.1867 and the latter no longer contains this provision. Now why would anyone remove what is clearly a section meant to protect the citizens of the United States from the actions of their own government?
Section 1031 d) now reads:
Construction- Nothing in this section is intended to limit or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military Force. http://www.govtrack.us
So your question: “What part of “… does not extend to citizens of the United States,” is unclear?” is irrelevant. Do you get that yet?
By not limiting the authority of the President means the authority he already has as per previous acts and presidential findings, which add up to unlimited authority.
If this isn’t clear to you – you are simply in denial.
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DDearborn
Dec 01, 2011 @ 14:54:56
Hmmmm
The “requirement” as listed in section 1031 does NOT prohibit the military from obducting US citizens and detaining them indefinitely without charges or trial. This merely states that it is not a “requirement”. There is a big big difference between being required to do something and prohibited from doing something.
If the authors of this act wanted to “prohibit” the military from doing this they would have said so. There is NOTHING in this act that prohibits the government from ordering the military to break down you door in the dead of night and dragging you away to prision never to be heard from again. It is as stated above, exactly the same kind of power granted every single dictatorship in history. No probable cause, no judge, no warrant, no trial, no appeals. In short no due process of any kind. And the best part? the government doesn’t need any reason what so ever, just the say so of……..somebody in the government. This act effectively over rules the 3rd, 4th and 5th amendments to the Constitution. It is with out a doubt the most unconstitutional act approved by the Senate since the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and subsequent income tax. You see the powers that be have realized that without this Act they won’t be able to force the citizens to continue to pay illegal debts dumped on the taxpayers by the Federal Reserve. Only be threat of inprisonment and death will Americans tolerate the corruption in Congress and the Federal Reserve.
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Ken D. Webber
Dec 01, 2011 @ 13:40:25
I would like to reply to MORONS Above who did not fully read through the bill and seem to believe the bill does not apply to American Citizens. The way the bill is set up is through a panel created by the President. They decide who is and who isn’t a “terrorist.” Said “terrorist” is then to be exported outside the jurisdiction of the US to undergo an “interrogation.” IF during that “interrogation” said terrorist admits they gave up their citizenship to become a “terrorist” then said “terrorist” can now be dealt with through a military tribunal, set up by the same people who labeled him or her a terrorist. This is IN THE WORDING of the bill morons. So to say it does not apply to American Citizens is a weasel way of lying. It DOES and WILL apply to American citizens who will be tortured into making false statements, will never receive a fair trail, and will disappear.
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Sariel Kune
Dec 01, 2011 @ 13:34:22
All you need to do at this point is grab your rifles and get ready cause it’s coming…
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captamerica1
Dec 01, 2011 @ 13:13:57
Law should apply to all persons equally not pick some and not others. This creates a very dangerous precarious situation, in that law is to be applied to some but not others. No man is above the law, that is unless you work in Congress, they are exempt.
This law creates a very dangerous situation.
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ppjg
Dec 01, 2011 @ 12:33:19
Robert……What part of “this was taken out and replaced” do you not understand?
It was replaced with a statement that nothing they did in the bill would limit or expand the power of the president…….
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Oblivion
Dec 01, 2011 @ 10:49:07
The 1%, those self-proclaimed arrogant self-deceiving beneficiaries of wealth, not struggling American, will ultimately reap the harvest that they have sewn.
We find ourselves in a Paradigm shift, meaning a systemic and slowly rotating turret-like motion, reversal of all-encompassing historical movements of epochal political and social change. This era will last 25-30 years. No one singular event shall define it, 9-11 was pivotal and defining in that it changed direction from the post cold war- a relative peaceful economic positive evolutionary development towards a deceptively garbed, war phase-against foreign enemies-alledgedly. Yet that build-up, cloaked the actual target, the American liberty, freedom and constitution-We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union…so we can expect many more such provocations…to prepare for the upheaval—in whose midst we find ourselves in the here and now…is clearly evident in the Occupy Wall Street and likely soon developing uprising, unrest, and 1960´s-resemblant anti-war movement. The super wealthy are fearful of us, we are enraged at them and thus the momentum will swing rapidly against them within the next entropical or depressionary cascade of mass suffering-economic-police state Junta executions and disappearances-i.e. Chile and Kissinger 1973-74. Oppression.
Millions are already in deeply troubled spiritual states, they are searching for reasons and attempting to sort it out in their minds. When they decide to act, expect a sudden shift in the opposite direction, proportionally equivalent to the magnitude or energy level of the oppressive clamp-down currently underway.
The regime is on borrowed time anyway, their self created- demise will follow.
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Robert Longley
Dec 01, 2011 @ 10:46:50
From Section 1031 of S.1867 as passed by the Senate…
“(b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-
“(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
“(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.”
What part of “… does not extend to citizens of the United States,” is unclear?
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Jeff
Dec 01, 2011 @ 10:18:59
Careful; your comments could make you a potential terrorist! When the come for the undesirables nobody will say anything and then up the food chain from there with the same response..nothing. They win for now but lose in the end. Satan taking over the world and decapitating Christians is SUPPOSED to happen, it’s God using evil to sort out his people.
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Steve
Dec 01, 2011 @ 07:48:18
I never thought I would see the day!
But then again, Congress is perhaps a reflection of the general public.
They certainly must be like the rest of the population and average a 4th grade reading level. This is where we have gone since Carter and the Department of Education took over because the States were doing too good a job.
It is certain they have never read the Constitution.
Their idea of Treason, is anyone or anything that prohibits them from stealing more and more from the people they are supposed to represent.
But then again I could be wrong,
The people they represent, do not live in this country.
This sounds just like something out of Das Kapital, which is the place I read of such things.
God Help Us.
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One step closer to fascism
Dec 01, 2011 @ 07:19:24
cylisa
Dec 01, 2011 @ 00:35:14
I have said before that what we are witnessing (and there are many thousands more (millions?) who don’t even have a clue or could care less) is a complete overthrow of our Constitutional Republic. A glaring wholesale, no holds barred, take no prisoner(s) frontal assault on our freedoms, our way of living, free enterprise, our religious beliefs, with nary a glance backwards to see how many casualties they leave behind. We have a Prez who doesn’t give one whit about this country nor what she stands for, nor the sacrifices made by our military, or the Founding Fathers, who bravely stood up to tyranny. The scary part is what we can’t see being done behind our backs by this bunch of treasonous tyrants.
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ChrisYAHanWatcher4YAH
Dec 01, 2011 @ 00:15:28
Possibly, if You Intended to MURDER Americans, under the CONvienient pretense, of “National Security Risks,” to the purported “Public Safety,” then you may presume; “plausible Deniability,” to the “TRAITOROUS TREASON” to the American People, whom They have: SOLD DOWN the
River of BETRAYAL?
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