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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin: A state under seige by its own government by State of South Dakota Initiates &#8220;Pogrom&#8221; Of Economic Genocide Against Raw Milk Producers &#171; Richard Boyden</title>
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		<dc:creator>State of South Dakota Initiates &#8220;Pogrom&#8221; Of Economic Genocide Against Raw Milk Producers &#171; Richard Boyden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on From Blinded Sheep to One Eye Open at All Times by Davy Stephenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davy Stephenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we start to prepare for the eventual outcome and work together is small family units of around 20 people, collate all the skills we have we should be able to stave off the worst that might come very soon, we must care and share or we go nowhere.

Davy,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we start to prepare for the eventual outcome and work together is small family units of around 20 people, collate all the skills we have we should be able to stave off the worst that might come very soon, we must care and share or we go nowhere.</p>
<p>Davy,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Infowars&#8217; War on the Truth by Gary Rea</title>
		<link>http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/infowars-war-on-the-truth/#comment-3110</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Rea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My regrets- I thought potentially contrasting points are worth lining up. Points made need not â€˜win overâ€™ or evaluate each other IMO. The list is oversized. I donâ€™t see my requirement to attempt gratifying each point. If a valued point is not â€˜addressedâ€™ immediately, this should not be demeaning. Nor would my non-indulgence of your valued point suggest an evasive or judgmental action on my part. Perhaps it is simply beyond the scope of one e-comment exchange.&quot;

That&#039;s just it, Bo; you&#039;ve made no points that have anything to do with what I said, let alone any &quot;contrasting points.&quot; You, yourself, quoted what I said and then presumably attempted to answer or rebut it - yet, you haven&#039;t offered anything that does either.

&quot;I see you might want me to proclaim a belief in precisely who done it. Underline â€˜preciselyâ€™. I simply doubt enough of a case has been built to convict, in a court of politically appointed judges, especially by candidates to highest offices. Likewise, too few people feel a civic duty here. Iâ€™m all for free expression of so many bits and pieces. See which ones enlighten.&quot;

No, Bo, I don&#039;t want you to &quot;proclaim a belief in who done it,&quot; or in anything else, for that matter. All I&#039;m saying is that you appear to be a skeptic, even of the obvious. You ignore all evidence presented and treat it as if it doesn&#039;t exist. In the first place, one needn&#039;t present evidence in such a fashion that would be accepted in a court of law, because no court is ever going to be convened to hear the case against these people. It will never be presented. That doesn&#039;t mean there is no case, nor does it mean there is no evidence. It simply means that the court system is controlled by the perpetrators and they are never going to allow themselves to tried for their crimes.

&quot;My feelings about Ron Paul are simply less involved than you imagineâ€“ Call it evasion if you like.&quot;

Precisely, Bo. That&#039;s exactly what it is you&#039;re doing; i.e., evading a direct reply to anything and everything I say. The extent of your response has been to ignore and deny. That certainly is evasion, by any definition.

&quot;So, if you claim to encompass all the ultimate information, required to cope with consciousness manipulation â€” All within your posted links or publications to buy, then be glad. Pursue your happiness. If dry humor displeases you, that is your right.&quot;

I didn&#039;t say anything of the kind, Bo. Nowhere did I say I&#039;ve presented everything there is to know about Alex Jones or Ron Paul. What I have presented are links to photos and articles that prove my point. You&#039;ve chosen to deny it all. Furthermore, I don&#039;t have any &quot;publications&quot; for sale. I&#039;m not selling anything. And, please don&#039;t insult me by insinuating that I have no sense of humor. None of what you&#039;ve written here comes remotely close to humor, in the first place. In fact, it barely passes for coherent writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My regrets- I thought potentially contrasting points are worth lining up. Points made need not â€˜win overâ€™ or evaluate each other IMO. The list is oversized. I donâ€™t see my requirement to attempt gratifying each point. If a valued point is not â€˜addressedâ€™ immediately, this should not be demeaning. Nor would my non-indulgence of your valued point suggest an evasive or judgmental action on my part. Perhaps it is simply beyond the scope of one e-comment exchange.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just it, Bo; you&#8217;ve made no points that have anything to do with what I said, let alone any &#8220;contrasting points.&#8221; You, yourself, quoted what I said and then presumably attempted to answer or rebut it &#8211; yet, you haven&#8217;t offered anything that does either.</p>
<p>&#8220;I see you might want me to proclaim a belief in precisely who done it. Underline â€˜preciselyâ€™. I simply doubt enough of a case has been built to convict, in a court of politically appointed judges, especially by candidates to highest offices. Likewise, too few people feel a civic duty here. Iâ€™m all for free expression of so many bits and pieces. See which ones enlighten.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, Bo, I don&#8217;t want you to &#8220;proclaim a belief in who done it,&#8221; or in anything else, for that matter. All I&#8217;m saying is that you appear to be a skeptic, even of the obvious. You ignore all evidence presented and treat it as if it doesn&#8217;t exist. In the first place, one needn&#8217;t present evidence in such a fashion that would be accepted in a court of law, because no court is ever going to be convened to hear the case against these people. It will never be presented. That doesn&#8217;t mean there is no case, nor does it mean there is no evidence. It simply means that the court system is controlled by the perpetrators and they are never going to allow themselves to tried for their crimes.</p>
<p>&#8220;My feelings about Ron Paul are simply less involved than you imagineâ€“ Call it evasion if you like.&#8221;</p>
<p>Precisely, Bo. That&#8217;s exactly what it is you&#8217;re doing; i.e., evading a direct reply to anything and everything I say. The extent of your response has been to ignore and deny. That certainly is evasion, by any definition.</p>
<p>&#8220;So, if you claim to encompass all the ultimate information, required to cope with consciousness manipulation â€” All within your posted links or publications to buy, then be glad. Pursue your happiness. If dry humor displeases you, that is your right.&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say anything of the kind, Bo. Nowhere did I say I&#8217;ve presented everything there is to know about Alex Jones or Ron Paul. What I have presented are links to photos and articles that prove my point. You&#8217;ve chosen to deny it all. Furthermore, I don&#8217;t have any &#8220;publications&#8221; for sale. I&#8217;m not selling anything. And, please don&#8217;t insult me by insinuating that I have no sense of humor. None of what you&#8217;ve written here comes remotely close to humor, in the first place. In fact, it barely passes for coherent writing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin: A state under seige by its own government by Paul Griepentrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Griepentrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 18:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The referance to &quot;big guys&quot; certainly doesn&#039;t apply to your situation.  It makes a broader referance to the overall consolidation of the dairy industry as a whole.  However the authorless bill is inclusive of grade A dairies, leaving producers like yourself and others outside the scope of proposed legislation.  Would it not be prefered to correct the situation in such a manner that would void DATCP&#039;s continuous changing interpetation?  A situation that is outside the lawful authority of any administrative body as it forms as fraud.  Which interpetation was valid, and which invalid and fraud at that time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The referance to &#8220;big guys&#8221; certainly doesn&#8217;t apply to your situation.  It makes a broader referance to the overall consolidation of the dairy industry as a whole.  However the authorless bill is inclusive of grade A dairies, leaving producers like yourself and others outside the scope of proposed legislation.  Would it not be prefered to correct the situation in such a manner that would void DATCP&#8217;s continuous changing interpetation?  A situation that is outside the lawful authority of any administrative body as it forms as fraud.  Which interpetation was valid, and which invalid and fraud at that time?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin: A state under seige by its own government by Marti Oakley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marti Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Shirl:

It is happening in every state.  Every effort is being made by state government to implement the theft of lands, the ending of property rights in one area or another.

This all stems from UN agenda 21 and the carving up of our country into biodiversity zones where human habitation is not allowed.  According to the UN...we must be moved off the land and into sequestered population centers.  Under their biodiversity map of designated [non-human] zones, most of the midwest and and any other land across the country that could be used for agricultural production of any kind would fall into these zones.  

Agriculture is the underpinning of any successful economy.  This should not be construed to mean industrialized corporate farming which is devastating to the environment and to human beings as well.  It is the ongoing process of traditional family farms, independent producers who have fueled the economy by producing food to feed the population, which in turn fuels everything up the line.  

As traditional farming prospers, so does the economy overall.  As industrialized farming expands, the economy declines.  

Break the agricultural structure and you lose the ability to feed the people.  As it is now.....after the rampant and illegal and unlawful complicity of our state and federal governments, we no longer produce enough food to feed our own people.  Thats hard to believe when walking into a grocery store where the shelves are packed with food.....for now. 

Of course...you have no idea where it came from or how it was processed. We have been deliberately brought to this point.  to seal the deal, the efforts are now to end propertry rights, seize food production and supply which is what the fake food safety bills are about......and to seize all water from any source whatsoever.

Control the food, control the water.....and you control the people.....a statement made by Henry Kissinger one of the most evil people to draw beath.  

We do need a to rise up.  I don&#039;t know about anyone else...but quite frankly I&#039;ve had about all I can stand.

Marti</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shirl:</p>
<p>It is happening in every state.  Every effort is being made by state government to implement the theft of lands, the ending of property rights in one area or another.</p>
<p>This all stems from UN agenda 21 and the carving up of our country into biodiversity zones where human habitation is not allowed.  According to the UN&#8230;we must be moved off the land and into sequestered population centers.  Under their biodiversity map of designated [non-human] zones, most of the midwest and and any other land across the country that could be used for agricultural production of any kind would fall into these zones.  </p>
<p>Agriculture is the underpinning of any successful economy.  This should not be construed to mean industrialized corporate farming which is devastating to the environment and to human beings as well.  It is the ongoing process of traditional family farms, independent producers who have fueled the economy by producing food to feed the population, which in turn fuels everything up the line.  </p>
<p>As traditional farming prospers, so does the economy overall.  As industrialized farming expands, the economy declines.  </p>
<p>Break the agricultural structure and you lose the ability to feed the people.  As it is now&#8230;..after the rampant and illegal and unlawful complicity of our state and federal governments, we no longer produce enough food to feed our own people.  Thats hard to believe when walking into a grocery store where the shelves are packed with food&#8230;..for now. </p>
<p>Of course&#8230;you have no idea where it came from or how it was processed. We have been deliberately brought to this point.  to seal the deal, the efforts are now to end propertry rights, seize food production and supply which is what the fake food safety bills are about&#8230;&#8230;and to seize all water from any source whatsoever.</p>
<p>Control the food, control the water&#8230;..and you control the people&#8230;..a statement made by Henry Kissinger one of the most evil people to draw beath.  </p>
<p>We do need a to rise up.  I don&#8217;t know about anyone else&#8230;but quite frankly I&#8217;ve had about all I can stand.</p>
<p>Marti</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin: A state under seige by its own government by Marti Oakley</title>
		<link>http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/wisconsin-a-state-under-seige-by-its-own-government/#comment-3103</link>
		<dc:creator>Marti Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rebekah:

In order to obtain the Grade A license that would be required to sell fresh milk......you would have to have a minimum of 60 cows to qualify for licensing..  This supposed bill, as was posted is simply a regurgitation of an old effort from some years back.  Whoever did the intial copy and paste did a poor job.  Even taken on face value (which would be 0 in my estimation) it is worthless as you are asking permission to conduct legal trade.  When did we conclude that we had to ask any permission from the government, on any level, and which it is specifically prohibited from entering into, to give us a &quot;license&quot; to conduct business.  A license is the tax paid to conduct any activity that otherwise has been deemed illegal.  Are you doing anything illegal?  Are you doing anything unlawful?  Do you know the difference?

I am concerned about the lack of attention to property rights, to being forced to submit to the surrendering of property rights, the forced compliance to regulations that violate protected rights, and the complicity of Wisconsin elected officials in this abrogation of your rights.

the &quot;bill&quot; you are supporting is a waste of time.  Why are you (and I mean that in the inclusive sense) participating in your own destruction?  Writing bills?  Suggesting amendments?  These are the actions of people who have agreed to the usurptation of their rights. Do you agree the government has the right to coerce you into forced compliance with a program that violates your property rights? 

This is far too extensive to go into here......you have other lawful options but first and foremost your right to be left alone by government.   

I can guarantee you that if you proceed by remaining silent, refusing to speak out and hiring others to negotiate some kind of deal.....you&#039;ll sink with the rest of the ship.

You don&#039;t need to make deals, write bills or amendments......just make a stand and defend your property from all threats...both foreign and DOMESTIC&gt;  

Marti</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rebekah:</p>
<p>In order to obtain the Grade A license that would be required to sell fresh milk&#8230;&#8230;you would have to have a minimum of 60 cows to qualify for licensing..  This supposed bill, as was posted is simply a regurgitation of an old effort from some years back.  Whoever did the intial copy and paste did a poor job.  Even taken on face value (which would be 0 in my estimation) it is worthless as you are asking permission to conduct legal trade.  When did we conclude that we had to ask any permission from the government, on any level, and which it is specifically prohibited from entering into, to give us a &#8220;license&#8221; to conduct business.  A license is the tax paid to conduct any activity that otherwise has been deemed illegal.  Are you doing anything illegal?  Are you doing anything unlawful?  Do you know the difference?</p>
<p>I am concerned about the lack of attention to property rights, to being forced to submit to the surrendering of property rights, the forced compliance to regulations that violate protected rights, and the complicity of Wisconsin elected officials in this abrogation of your rights.</p>
<p>the &#8220;bill&#8221; you are supporting is a waste of time.  Why are you (and I mean that in the inclusive sense) participating in your own destruction?  Writing bills?  Suggesting amendments?  These are the actions of people who have agreed to the usurptation of their rights. Do you agree the government has the right to coerce you into forced compliance with a program that violates your property rights? </p>
<p>This is far too extensive to go into here&#8230;&#8230;you have other lawful options but first and foremost your right to be left alone by government.   </p>
<p>I can guarantee you that if you proceed by remaining silent, refusing to speak out and hiring others to negotiate some kind of deal&#8230;..you&#8217;ll sink with the rest of the ship.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to make deals, write bills or amendments&#8230;&#8230;just make a stand and defend your property from all threats&#8230;both foreign and DOMESTIC&gt;  </p>
<p>Marti</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin: A state under seige by its own government by Rebekah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebekah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there...
I appreciate your political stance and believe so much of what you have said to be true. I happen to be one of those in the group promoting the bill. I&#039;m just a little confused about the following statement:

&quot;After two years, the large producers would simply have gotten larger still, and the little guys would simply have succumbed to financial ruin.  Problem solved.&quot;

My husband and I have 18 milking cows and ship about 400 lbs every two days to a cheese plant. We have a Grade B license and sell the rest of it raw, to a growing customer base. Are we the sort of dairy farmer that you are speaking about? Are we &quot;the big guys?&quot; I never would have thought so, until now.

I don&#039;t like being accused of trying to &quot;save myself&quot; and trampling the little guys (of which I believe we are one). We sell raw because we feel passionately about the product. &quot;Doing others in&quot; was never on our agenda.

Thank you for your voice and opinion. The country needs more of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there&#8230;<br />
I appreciate your political stance and believe so much of what you have said to be true. I happen to be one of those in the group promoting the bill. I&#8217;m just a little confused about the following statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;After two years, the large producers would simply have gotten larger still, and the little guys would simply have succumbed to financial ruin.  Problem solved.&#8221;</p>
<p>My husband and I have 18 milking cows and ship about 400 lbs every two days to a cheese plant. We have a Grade B license and sell the rest of it raw, to a growing customer base. Are we the sort of dairy farmer that you are speaking about? Are we &#8220;the big guys?&#8221; I never would have thought so, until now.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like being accused of trying to &#8220;save myself&#8221; and trampling the little guys (of which I believe we are one). We sell raw because we feel passionately about the product. &#8220;Doing others in&#8221; was never on our agenda.</p>
<p>Thank you for your voice and opinion. The country needs more of you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin: A state under seige by its own government by Shirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been experiencing a similar degree of cavalier lawlessness from government agencies and &quot;officials&quot; for years now in California and the situation is utterly out of control now. While the circumstances to which I am referring do not include dairies and farmland, the rampant corruption and utter disregard for civil and property rights which you describe Marti, is identical. WE THE PEOPLE must grok (and soon) that these times we&#039;re living in call for extraordinary measures; likely including &quot;an explosion of mass daring&quot; as author, astrologer Jessica Murray has boldly suggested.  Collectively, we must STAND TOGETHER, ACROSS THIS NATION and creatively, powerfully, lawfully and fearlessly throw an INVINCIBLE  monkey wrench in the New World Order&#039;s deceptive plan to rob us blind and then do us in. Nothing short of a MASSIVE, PEACEFUL, DYNAMIC REVOLUTION is what&#039;s called for and MILLIONS OF US ACROSS THIS NATION can turn the tide if we RISE UP in ONE VOICE to TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK, before it&#039;s too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been experiencing a similar degree of cavalier lawlessness from government agencies and &#8220;officials&#8221; for years now in California and the situation is utterly out of control now. While the circumstances to which I am referring do not include dairies and farmland, the rampant corruption and utter disregard for civil and property rights which you describe Marti, is identical. WE THE PEOPLE must grok (and soon) that these times we&#8217;re living in call for extraordinary measures; likely including &#8220;an explosion of mass daring&#8221; as author, astrologer Jessica Murray has boldly suggested.  Collectively, we must STAND TOGETHER, ACROSS THIS NATION and creatively, powerfully, lawfully and fearlessly throw an INVINCIBLE  monkey wrench in the New World Order&#8217;s deceptive plan to rob us blind and then do us in. Nothing short of a MASSIVE, PEACEFUL, DYNAMIC REVOLUTION is what&#8217;s called for and MILLIONS OF US ACROSS THIS NATION can turn the tide if we RISE UP in ONE VOICE to TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK, before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Interesting Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Wisconsin: A state under seige by its own government by Korn is king</title>
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		<dc:creator>Korn is king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 02:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is milk the big battle ? In Mexico the girls are fully developed at 8 and 9 years old now. The growth hormone is causing other types of growth. The plastic bottles used by the big guys can release chemicals that cause sterility. I think we have been fed a bunch of &quot;malarky&quot; for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is milk the big battle ? In Mexico the girls are fully developed at 8 and 9 years old now. The growth hormone is causing other types of growth. The plastic bottles used by the big guys can release chemicals that cause sterility. I think we have been fed a bunch of &#8220;malarky&#8221; for years.</p>
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